AQR (Auto Quick Release)

Quote: Originally posted by popeyethewelder

Quote: Originally posted by rico   the big difference , that I have nothing to sell. I have nothing to sell. neither do I..., I am thrilled you are happy with your system, lets leave it at that ehh because we are just going around in circles

no ..
You're probably a very good advice .. perhaps?
we do not turn around .. perhaps not in your direction you turn?

Can anyone explain to me what Rico is saying...I am lost

I am not sponsored, I paid the full price like everyone else....I do not sell them...anywhere including France

The translator you are using unfortunately makes reading your posts very difficult, and you are obviously not understanding what we are saying either...

Then if you understand me, you will understand I am not happy you are slandering me the French Forum....I have been courteous to you, but you slate me on an open forum, it shows what kind of person you really are

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y as de la suite sur powerkit machin ..popey qui dit que des conneries ..c'est vrai qu'apres la copie du duralixwichar ..j'entend plus parlé de lui :siffle:.... allez faire vos essais avec son largueur à 250 :sm38:

Quote: Originally posted by popeyethewelder

Then if you understand me, you will understand I am not happy you are slandering me the French Forum....I have been courteous to you, but you slate me on an open forum, it shows what kind of person you really are Quote: y as de la suite sur powerkit machin ..popey qui dit que des conneries ..c'est vrai qu'apres la copie du duralixwichar ..j'entend plus parlé de lui :siffle:.... allez faire vos essais avec son largueur à 250 :sm38:

I'm a villain, not a scoop
but I have not insulted nowhere .. In fact, you should google translator messing.
I put things in their place
announce that Kamove width is not made for saltwater, that the kamove RESISTNCE have a limit of 150kg is also a mistake, I react a little.


and put things in their place, I remember very well the famous "Duralix" wide I could see on your site ..
a very nice must surely give you serious about Kamove

my proposal to conduct load tests on the remains of MK Current events ...
For Kamove .. it's already done.

and as I said, I have nothing to sell
that the kamove is not made for salt water, in fact, it's bull#@%$#!, tell it resists to 150 is bull#@%$#!.
announced on the web forum, BUT ESPECIALLY FACEBOOK is bull#@%$#!.

that laboratory testing does not prove anything, even something stupid
That driving fast is necessarily proof of a good system deployment is also bull#@%$#!
That a system sold 100 copies is necessarily a good security system is bull#@%$#!

How snatchoot sold? many, is a system of security that is something that does not work load? YES, this is bull#@%$#! ... but the one you did not tell ... you are forgiven

Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD

Quote: Originally posted by betosoria   The advantage is that it releases even when it is full of sand. For example , a Wichard will not release under load with sand in it. Not true... You have been using the WRONG one. A torsion Wichard does not have a pin. It will release with heavy load and covered with sand.

I do not know the Wichard, so it is not first hand information. Then I must be missing much more information on the use of Wichards for Kitebuggy(if you know a thread I would appreciate it).
I would think that the kitesufing community in France came up with a norm (“AFNOR NF S 52-503 POUR LE KITE” http://www.kiteattitude.com/fr/LA%20NORME%20AFNOR%20NF%20S%2...) is due to the fact that the existing releases (I would think the Wichard among them, I may be wrong) had difficulties in some situations, wet sand among them.
An other relevant issue is that I think that Wichards where developed for an other specific application, I guess they are intended to be used on boats and not as part of kite safety release systems, so I would think even if they can be used for kiting they are not intended for this purpose.
The difficult part I have as an individual seeking an auto-release safety release system for kitebuggy is to choose a system, and I have trouble knowing how convenient is a Wichard.

You have to stop posting...

Je vois , je me suis inscris ici pour remettre les choses à leur places.

Le Kamove est un bon largueur , tout le systeme (double largueur ) fonctionne.

Je comprend tres bien votre etonnement du prix , c'est normal, personne , sauf KITTEATTITUDE prend sa marge (faible) .C'est legerement normal des etudes mecanique pour se comformer à la norme ont été faites, le Kamove est l'un des seul largueur sous charge qui passe la norme.

KITEATTIDUDE as deja fournis des largueurs Kamove à divers marque de cerf volant de traction , ils sont repartis avec ,sans donné de nouvelles , j'ai pour ma part contacté 2 fabriquand , ils m'ont simplement demander de leur donné le systeme , pour etudié le principe , je ne suis pas mere THERESA ...et j'ai bien compris la demarche , ils prennent essais de faire une copie et voir combien ils vont gagné dessus ... je vous laisse imaginer , la surprise ..
Copier pour vous le revendre 200 euros reste un suicide .. commercialement parlant .

KITTEATTITUDE ce n'est qu'une personne , pas de commercial qui fait du lobing ... voici aussi pourquoi le largueur est si peu connu, vendre des largueur n'est pas le travail principal de Donatien...

l'etude de ce largueur lui as couté de l'argent .. il n'y as pas de retour ..

pourquoi ? il ne raportera que peu d'argent aux vendeurs , votre securitée , ils s'en fichent...
vendre des ailes avec un potentiel dangereux n'est pas leur problemes ... un set d'aile à 4000 euros ! et meme pas un systeme d'autolargage à 100 euros fournis avec ..ca ne les interesse pas.
Je suis partis dans cette demarche .. un systeme qui laisse une chance de s'en sortir en cas de problemes .

il n'est pas chere , ca derange ?

le montage complet est fait par vous meme , donc aucune facture de montage.

Vous ne payer que les materiaux.

voici aussi pourquoi le prix si peu elevé.
Vous ne payez pas pour les intermediaires , il n'y en as pas .

Il est facile de se moquer , je ne parle pas anglais , j'ai juste voulu participer et donner de reel informations ,avec la traduction google , je vous ai tres bien compris , j'ai fait l'effort de vous donner des informations sur le Kamove et tout le systeme d'autolargage ce ne sont pas des oui dire , je sais de quoi je parle , je connais tres bien le systeme.

Je ne doute pas que certains informateurs, bien attentionné , vous ont fournis des informations qui ne vont pas dans votre sens .
Mais une chose est sure le systeme fonctionne , et pas qu'en photo..

je n'ai rien à caché , je ne vend rien ,je me suis juste adapté à un systeme Fiable et indiscutable , et c'est surement ce qui derange .
cordialement

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Translator(bing)-for those curious

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Je vois , je me suis inscris ici pour remettre les choses..

"I see, I sign here to put things in their places.

The Kamove is a good width, whole (double width) system works.

I understand very well your astonishment at the price, this is normal, no one except KITTEATTITUDE takes its margin (low).This is normal slightly from mechanical studies for will comply to the standard were made, the Kamove is one of the only width under load that passes the standard.

KITEATTIDUDE as already provided in the Kamove exercising at various traction kite mark, they are left with, without given news, I personally contacted 2 fabriquand, they me simply ask of their given the system for studying the principle I'm not mother THERESA.. .and I understand the approach, they take tests to make a copy and see how much they earned above... I let you imagine , surprise..
Copy to sell you 200 euro remains a suicide... commercially speaking.

KITTEATTITUDE this is just a person, not commercial that makes the lobing... This is also why the width is so little known, sell the width is not the main work of Donatien...

the study of this width him as listening to money.. He did not return...

Why? It does raportera that little money from the vendors, your safety, they don't care...
sell wings with a hazardous potential is not their problems... a set of wing at 4000 euros! and even not an autolargage to 100 euros system supplied with...CA does the person not.
I went with this approach... a system that lets a chance of escape in the event of problems.

It is not dear, ca bother?

the full Assembly is made by you even, so no installation invoice.

You pay only the materials.

Here is also why the price so high.
You do not pay for intermediaries, there as not.

It is easy to scoff, I do not speak English, I just wanted to participate and give real information, with the google translation, I understand you very well, I made the effort to give you information about the Kamove and whole system of autolargage it is not the Yes say, I know what I am talking about, I know very well the system.

I have no doubt that some informants, well attentive,: mad: you have provided information that does not go in your direction.
But one thing is for sure the system works, and not only in photo...

I have nothing to hidden, I sell nothing, I just adapted to a system reliable and indisputable, and this is surely what disturbed.
Kind regards"


What is odd is this transcript I just translated is WAY more coherent than whatever rico is using that we could not understand.!!


Is this thread over, now?

Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD

Quote: Originally posted by betosoria   The advantage is that it releases even when it is full of sand. For example , a Wichard will not release under load with sand in it. Not true... You have been using the WRONG one. A torsion Wichard does not have a pin. It will release with heavy load and covered with sand.

I may have missed something here but this will not open if it is upside down, there is a top and bottom and if you pull it the wrong direction it will NOT open.

rico, I am not disturbed by the indisputable reliability of the system you are promoting, I am just tired of the agonizing process of deciphering your posts, especially when you continue to repeat yourself over and over and over and over again. I am happy with the MK Splitter and I will continue to use it. are you disturbed by that? "is this thread over now?" no I will continue to post information on the system I have chosen or any others I come across, however I am finished debating with rico, his system looks like it works very well but I still prefer the MK splitter for the reasons I have stated above. besides I am the elite and why would I want to save $

Quote: Originally posted by bigkid

Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD   Quote: Originally posted by betosoria   The advantage is that it releases even when it is full of sand. For example , a Wichard will not release under load with sand in it. Not true... You have been using the WRONG one. A torsion Wichard does not have a pin. It will release with heavy load and covered with sand. I may have missed something here but this will not open if it is upside down, there is a top and bottom and if you pull it the wrong direction it will NOT open.

I think it is, (difficult, impossible), to not know in what position is the Wichard works, even in a picture.

With the knowledge of one accident due to sand in a 2673 Wichard is enough for me to make up my mind: I will not be involved in a second accident due to the same problem. I do not think that I will ever have sand in Wichard because I will not use one. Some times I buggy on the beach and I can not be 100% sure I will not get some sand on it. I will not discover in the middle of an OBE due to an unpredictable nasty gust that sand blocked my Wichard based release safety system.

And here's a little something to think about. If you flip over like I did, those auto QR's are useless. My butt never left the seat. Granted ,not many people manage to flip. But,I flipped a buggy that weighs 131lbs.. So I'm certain it can, and will be done.

"Nothing is foolproof, to a sufficiently talented fool"

I wasn't suggesting that it complicates it, just that OBEs aren't the only danger we face. So , just because someone has an auto QR, doesn't mean you can't/won't get hurt.
But for OBEs ,it looks like a great thing. Personally , if I think the winds are that sketchy I'll run on hotwire. But,that makes a flipover worse,as you are trapped until you hit the release. Which I gotta admit is ALOT harder than you would think with a 131lb. buggy on top of you.:o

this was not friendly already and helper ... unnecessary personal remark ...this was a good example , how it why a kitesurfer let tease us
we are too open minded
he does not understand it there are not saltwater or sand on a grassy field
and the wind strength changes suddenly always
and the mother earth more hard than the water
and ……and a French man could insist on his snail better than like that leaves it away on a fluttering rope
otherwise
have to be more pride a buggyrider in


my English is bleeding too , but I dont use the Google Translater...

Quote: Originally posted by dangerdan

Post the link where you order

There isn't a direct order link but you can reach Jeff through his website:
www.pkdkitesusa.com

Quote: Originally posted by dangerdan

I realize this is an old post (April 16 2013) but I'm curious if this device lived up to expectations and was it worth the price of 250 euros (ouch). I saw the video at this location " AQR Video " and thought I would reopen it considering recent accidents.

I am still using my MK Splitter with no troubles. IMO it is worth the $

Quote: Originally posted by podsds

Have you considered the Mystic KRS Safety Spreader Bar? http://vimeo.com/72351507

that looks like a great system, but it is not auto, this thread is for auto-release. thanks for sharing though

Got my downtube AQR fitment complete. Jeff's concept, but on a removable bolt on bracket.

I like the bolt on idea. I worked on that design but passed on it due to the fact you had to weld a bolt of some type to a rod and drill a hole for it to mount into. I felt it was to easy to alter the application and drastically change the design to the point of it not working. If you could weld a rod to a bolt, why not weld the rod to the end of the downtube? Unless you plan on talking it off. I sell my buggies with the modification still attached.
Looks like you did it right.

Quote: Originally posted by bigkid

Looks like you did it right.

Thank you Jeff. That does mean a lot

Those funky zip ties just hold a thin layer of corrugated plastic to help protect the underside of the seat from rubbing on the down tube end cap.

And yes. I know I need to sweep my floor