Nasa Star 3

Quote: Originally posted by John Holgate

Quote: I suddenly feel the goo that my brain has now turned to slowly oozing our of my ears :o... For the continuing serenity of the kiting community as a whole, I suggest we completely ban maths.

I finished editing my footage today... really just threw something quick together for you guys to see,... we'll see if the copyright police shut it down before I can post it... if so, I'll get a tune from free play or something.

Welcome to the Nasa Star addiction!

Oh and by the way, I think I confirmed with Steffen (if he understood my question and I understand his answer correctly) that though others have placed orders (Sean), I am the FIRST in the United States with the Nasa Star 3s... if that makes me cool at all, I'll take it

Jason, we need to teach Randy how to buggy so at JIBE we can have a Nasa Star convoy.

We need some T-shirts too

Doesn't Randy have a ATB?
I had to scour my videos, but I found the NS2 5.5m pilot.
V ->

Yeah... I know he does, ... I just thought it'd be cool to have a line of 3 bugs in a row all on Nasas... you know... solidarity of the JWC Brotherhood of Nasa Stars

The ATB will be cool too,... just thinking out loud.

Quote: Originally posted by rofer

All right, I couldn't wait any longer and I ordered 4.0m and 8.5m NS3s. Hope there's still any wind by the time they get here.

Ahhhh.....
Growing the masses! Resistance is futile! :evil:

Rofer, they fly on a gnat's fart

Quote: Originally posted by rofer

Just double-checked to see if that was at all reasonable for me. Unfortunately I'll still be an undergrad then. Definitely looking forward to the day when I can travel to these things.

NO EXCUSES!!! I'm finishing my Masters AS WE SPEAK... and i have 4 kids... and a full time job

I haven't been wearing a helmet because I've found myself pretty comfortable with my gear and activities, but also because I didn't like my $5 helmet that I had. I've been wanting to push my own limits a little more lately and decided I needed a safety upgrade. Here's the new lid.

Quote: Originally posted by 3shot Rofer, they fly on a gnat's fart [/rquote

My worry is that my longest lines are 9m. The 8.5m NS3 should definitely be a step up from my old 6m NPW5 though. 3shot - 4-4-2015 at 01:53 PM Man. I need to get my Born decal on the burban tomorrow. I'm feeling left out. John Holgate - 4-4-2015 at 03:42 PM Quote: The 8.5m NS3 should definitely be a step up from my old 6m NPW5 though. I've never flown any other NPW wings apart from the NS2's so I'll be interested to hear your comparison. soliver - 20-4-2015 at 01:23 PM Flew the 5.5m hooked in for the first time... Many thanks to Davis (Cheeks) for trading me a standard hook spreader for my PL Bullet Spreader... I really liked the way it felt to be able to hook in and unhook to utilize the Depow more efficiently... Also felt super safe and easy to fly one handed. I could easily unhook or use the yellow ball for depow... Man these are great kites! I can't wait for JIBE!!!! Wind was maybe 10 mph gusting to the mid-high teens. Hope to get the 7m up sometime soon 3shot - 20-4-2015 at 04:07 PM Yup. One of my favorite parts of the NS. With the 3rd line attached to the harness, you can just "let go" of the bar and kill the kite. I don't hook in while in the jank, just strong arm it after my semi OBE. I just work the bar. I save the hook in for clean air. Just like a QR Wichard as a safety, having the yellow ball you need to be faster than mother nature to really benefit while hooked in. By the time it was going wrong, I was already up and out of the buggy. I also like the fact you can control the power while getting situated in the buggy by letting the bar out a bit. Then, pull down, hook in, and whooooosh :D soliver - 20-4-2015 at 04:37 PM Very true! How do you guys utilize the adjustment in the 3rd line with the different sizes?... I know you're supposed to adjust it with different sizes, but what's recommended? Or do you guys bother with it? 3shot - 20-4-2015 at 04:42 PM I have different knots tied on. I've been meaning to color code them with a sharpie for kook proof. Yes, the third line attachment does vary from kite to kite. At least on my two bars. I like my nose to start collapsing about two thirds way extended out. If I don't adjust to the correct knot, its either way too long, or way too short on the depower throw while switching between kite sizes. I've also toyed with the idea of trying my AQR on the Nasa bar. I may try it at JIBE. ssayre - 20-4-2015 at 05:25 PM Jason, did you have an obe with the nasa's? I don't bother with the adjustment for the third line but I probably should. Still love these the most in the buggy. I'm still pretty nervous on the rare occasion the wind allows me to use the 2.5. soliver - 20-4-2015 at 05:34 PM Does Steffen list the recommended lengths for the Adjustment?... I remember seeing it listed before, but can't remember where... linky por favor?? 3shot - 20-4-2015 at 05:34 PM Yes Sean. A semi lol. It was not a violent OBE though. More of an over the side rail, on my knees, then up to my feet. It was in one geaceful motion that i played off to the spectators lmao. I posted about it a few months ago. It was with the 5.5. I lost some speed in a turn then caught a gust. ssayre - 20-4-2015 at 05:43 PM ok, I either didn't remember or didn't read that one. I've only had one similar one with the 4 meter. They can still get ornery if you test them. 3shot - 20-4-2015 at 05:46 PM Another method of safety is to use the AQR rope itself and not fumble with the wichard and block. If you have an AQR rope like BigKid and me that attaches to a rod under the seat, you can simply hook the small carabiner to a choked knot around the main safety ball's collar. Just another thought. It might be less cumbersome. 3shot - 20-4-2015 at 05:47 PM Quote: Originally posted by ssayre   ok, I either didn't remember or didn't read that one. I've only had one similar one with the 4 meter. They can still get ornery if you test them. It was in the second page of my original Nasa Star 2 review I think. ssayre - 20-4-2015 at 06:04 PM I had read it and responded to it and forgot it. I'm getting old. 3shot - 20-4-2015 at 06:09 PM Quote: Originally posted by ssayre   I had read it and responded to it and forgot it. I'm getting old. I cant wait to get these on the slick hardpack sand at JIBE. Virtually NO rolling resistance. I will definitely start down a size to sort things out :wee: IMK - 20-4-2015 at 08:55 PM Quote: Originally posted by soliver   Does Steffen list the recommended lengths for the Adjustment?... I remember seeing it listed before, but can't remember where... linky por favor?? Try this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG5XnQqcV8Y I have to admit that I leave mine at around the 24"/60cm mark for all kite sizes. I don't know if the measurements in the vid also apply to the NS3's. Probably a good starting point. IMK - 20-4-2015 at 09:00 PM Quote: Originally posted by ssayre   Jason, did you have an obe with the nasa's? Still love these the most in the buggy. I'm still pretty nervous on the rare occasion the wind allows me to use the 2.5. You'll love the 2.5 in crazy winds. I have to admit that sometimes I'm nervous too when the wind is cranking, however after I get rolling the nerves disappear. Its just that much fun and confidence inspiring. The 1.5 is a hoot too. In fact some of my best buggy sessions have been with the 1.5. ssayre - 21-4-2015 at 04:20 AM Quote: You'll love the 2.5 in crazy winds. I have to admit that sometimes I'm nervous too when the wind is cranking, however after I get rolling the nerves disappear. Its just that much fun and confidence inspiring. The 1.5 is a hoot too. In fact some of my best buggy sessions have been with the 1.5. Thanks Iain, I hope I get some 2.5 wind soon. I've only had the wind and time once so far in the buggy. I've used it several times with the longboard. Yesterday and today are 2.5 wind days but work is interfering. Are you all healed yet? 3shot - 21-4-2015 at 05:28 AM Spencer. I must have misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking about the knots for attaching the kite's third line to the bar's center line. If so, yes, I have different knots at different lengths. As far as the cam cleat adjustment, you want just enough to kill the kite, but not turn inside out. I don't move that either. Although I probably should. I haven't had a bad bowl of spaghetti yet, but I'm sure its coming. B-Roc - 21-4-2015 at 09:16 AM So is everyone using the depower bar with these kites and not the street bar? ssayre - 21-4-2015 at 12:10 PM Most use the 3 line depower bar with long lines because it comes with a harness loop and quick release. I use this bar for buggy. I use the streetkite bar for short lines and longboard because I don't need to hook in. You can use the 3 line depower bar for long or short lines but the street kite bar is only recommended for use up to 10 meter lines. Don't know why but that's what Steffen told me. The street kite bar is cheaper and cleaner without the harness loop if you don't plan on hooking in and your using it for short lines. Best I can tell, the harness loop is permenanlty attached to the depower mechanism on the depower bar so you can't remove it. I just bent my street kite bar in half today in high winds and using it in the buggy. Steffen will probably replace it for free but I'm going to use my DIY woody in the meantime. Works just as good. dangerdan - 21-4-2015 at 01:20 PM Quote: Originally posted by 3shot   Spencer. I must have misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking about the knots for attaching the kite's third line to the bar's center line. If so, yes, I have different knots at different lengths. As far as the cam cleat adjustment, you want just enough to kill the kite, but not turn inside out. I don't move that either. Although I probably should. I haven't had a bad bowl of spaghetti yet, but I'm sure its coming. Unfortunately I have that bowl of spaghetti lots of times. I know I said this kite handles great but its not for me. I like flying my kites on handles but not on the NASA 3. When its up its good. Problem arrives trying to land it and keep it down on handles. It twirls and flutters to the point of ending up in a bad bowl of spaghetti. I have tried different ways to attach the power/brake lines with and without the Z bridle and no luck, so I sold it. A friend of mine bought the NASA 3 and he uses the bar. It fly great on the bar. When it comes down he pulls the centre line and it stays down. The NASA 3 in my opinion is designed for a bar and not handles. I had high hopes for the NASA and it was not to be. :dunno: Demoknight - 21-4-2015 at 02:02 PM Quote: Originally posted by Randy   They have done a little landboarding at Piedmont park. He has a bunch of landboards, control bars, helmuts, etc and I think he still has a big Beamer, but not sure. They probably sell a lot more single line stuff though. He mentioned a place called Arabia Mtn - but i don't know if that is just for static flying or what. The also have some stunt kites (HQ Mojo). They have a lot of stuff there. Arabia Mountain is in Conyers. I know where that is! I got my start flying kites there with my family when I was 3. I don't think there is any room there for power kiting, but it is amazing for stunt kites and single liners. I have lost a kite in Dekalb from the top of Arabia Mountain, lol. IMK - 21-4-2015 at 02:18 PM Quote: Originally posted by ssayre   Thanks Iain, I hope I get some 2.5 wind soon. I've only had the wind and time once so far in the buggy. I've used it several times with the longboard. Yesterday and today are 2.5 wind days but work is interfering. Are you all healed yet? Leg is healing well. I'm not supposed to put shock loads on it (e.g. jump) until July, so I'm hesitant to get in the buggy until then just in case I get an OBE, which is unlikely if I fly my ns2s or FBs with my AQR. 3shot - 21-4-2015 at 03:24 PM Glad you are getting better IMK! Sorry the Star didn't work out like you hoped dangerdan. I haven't tried them on handles yet. Only the bar. And only with NASA Star 2s. ssayre - 21-4-2015 at 06:15 PM Quote: Unfortunately I have that bowl of spaghetti lots of times. I know I said this kite handles great but its not for me. I like flying my kites on handles but not on the NASA 3. When its up its good. Problem arrives trying to land it and keep it down on handles. It twirls and flutters to the point of ending up in a bad bowl of spaghetti. I have tried different ways to attach the power/brake lines with and without the Z bridle and no luck, so I sold it. A friend of mine bought the NASA 3 and he uses the bar. It fly great on the bar. When it comes down he pulls the centre line and it stays down. The NASA 3 in my opinion is designed for a bar and not handles. I had high hopes for the NASA and it was not to be. :dunno: Bummer Dan. Do you fly mainly static? They are not particularly exciting until moving with them. All hope's not lost, maybe you will find another kite or kite accessory to buy from the proceeds. dangerdan - 22-4-2015 at 11:10 AM Quote: Originally posted by ssayre   Quote: Unfortunately I have that bowl of spaghetti lots of times. I know I said this kite handles great but its not for me. I like flying my kites on handles but not on the NASA 3. When its up its good. Problem arrives trying to land it and keep it down on handles. It twirls and flutters to the point of ending up in a bad bowl of spaghetti. I have tried different ways to attach the power/brake lines with and without the Z bridle and no luck, so I sold it. A friend of mine bought the NASA 3 and he uses the bar. It fly great on the bar. When it comes down he pulls the centre line and it stays down. The NASA 3 in my opinion is designed for a bar and not handles. I had high hopes for the NASA and it was not to be. :dunno: Bummer Dan. Do you fly mainly static? They are not particularly exciting until moving with them. All hope's not lost, maybe you will find another kite or kite accessory to buy from the proceeds. I fly mainly static and I enjoy it for the exercise. I can't do depower as they don't make a harness in my size ... I would like to buggy but that's not practical right now as there is nothing close by and I need to be close to the house as my wife is not well. I'm still looking for the largest FB kite I can fly in low winds. bigE123 - 22-4-2015 at 11:18 AM :D largest fb for light winds, anything bigger than 12m and you'd struggle static flying in 3-5mph wind. My 12m flies when you can just feel the wind on your neck, by 6mph you'll be scudding.... or running like Forest Gump :D markite - 22-4-2015 at 12:35 PM Quote: Originally posted by dangerdan   I fly mainly static and I enjoy it for the exercise. I can't do depower as they don't make a harness in my size ... I would like to buggy but that's not practical right now as there is nothing close by and I need to be close to the house as my wife is not well. I'm still looking for the largest FB kite I can fly in low winds. Hey Ralph, there are some larger harness options for you. I know a buddy in Kitchener had one of the companies do up a custom one for him (I think it was Dakine). The PL Divine harness comes in a very large size but they are geared more to sitting down and you would probably want a little different shape to the harness. If you are looking for a large f.b. let me know what size you are looking for. i sold my 10.8 Reactor but there are a lot of options laying around here for you - the new Cross kites Sonic fly nice with a lot of speed and I have a few of those and other foils if you ever want to try. Not exactly on your doorstep but i'm not too far away and you are always welcome to fly anything I have. Mark markite - 22-4-2015 at 12:40 PM Hey are you guys following the new Mad Way Mongolia buggy trek that just started another expedition a few days ago - see one of the shots posted today soliver - 22-4-2015 at 01:11 PM That's pretty cool Mark... I knew they were using single skin kites, but I thought they were Peter Lynn's Skin prototypes... Those are definitely NASA wings of some sort. In other news I flew the 7m today for the first time... Bad idea in today's wind... Forecast was for 10 mph, but it was more like 15 mph gusting over 20 with ... It was a little nerve racking. I survived but man was it a pain trying to set up in the gusty hank... Shoulda known better. Thank goodness for the Depow :o In other other news ... Only 10 more days til JIBE (14 for me)... WUHOOOOO!!! 3shot - 22-4-2015 at 03:41 PM My 7m hasn't even seen daylight yet.... soliver - 22-4-2015 at 04:25 PM poor guy Forecast is for 10mph tomorrow may try again :D ssayre - 22-4-2015 at 05:20 PM Spencer I have been side launching them. I just put a single weight on the upwind tip that I partially fold. That way it just stays flagged out as you attach lines. I always stick the flying line ends in my mouth that way I have 2 hands free to undo the transport loop then connect the lines. So beware if you see any of my stars for sale that there is plenty of spit on the line ends. soliver - 22-4-2015 at 05:54 PM Thanks for the tip Sean! soliver - 23-4-2015 at 04:42 AM By the way U.S. peeps... I'm about to sell my RII at JIBE and checked the going rate for the Euro... $1.07 to 1 EUR!!!!! Thats even better than when I bought my other pair of NS3s! Sweeeeeet :o ...Hope it stays around there for the next 2 weeks! Probably going to put up the 7m again on lunch today but its yet to be decided... love the color scheme on that one! ssayre - 23-4-2015 at 05:18 AM Dang, I need to get my 10 meter ordered as soon as I have the cash! Your welcome Spencer, I'm sure there are many ways to set up, but that's the fastest I've come up with. Still not as fast as fb with lines attached but I find the fun I have with them pays off in spades. dangerdan - 23-4-2015 at 07:40 AM Quote: Originally posted by markite   Quote: Originally posted by dangerdan   I fly mainly static and I enjoy it for the exercise. I can't do depower as they don't make a harness in my size ... I would like to buggy but that's not practical right now as there is nothing close by and I need to be close to the house as my wife is not well. I'm still looking for the largest FB kite I can fly in low winds. Hey Ralph, there are some larger harness options for you. I know a buddy in Kitchener had one of the companies do up a custom one for him (I think it was Dakine). The PL Divine harness comes in a very large size but they are geared more to sitting down and you would probably want a little different shape to the harness. If you are looking for a large f.b. let me know what size you are looking for. i sold my 10.8 Reactor but there are a lot of options laying around here for you - the new Cross kites Sonic fly nice with a lot of speed and I have a few of those and other foils if you ever want to try. Not exactly on your doorstep but i'm not too far away and you are always welcome to fly anything I have. Mark Mark U2U sent soliver - 23-4-2015 at 10:44 AM Wow, great lunchtime static session, perfect for the 7m... wind was right around 10mph gusting up into the mid teens... I cam in to work early to make for extra lunch time and I was really able to spend my time getting to play around. I got REALLY use to flying one-handed and loooove that!... Man these things are stable. I was even able to pull out the Iphone and snap a pic... its hard to do one handed pics though with the new big-A iPhones though... I still had my phone out and a gust hit, but I was able to keep it in check with one hand Also found that for me the best way to unpack and pack is to lay it on its back with the nose pointed into the wind... with a knee on the nose, I hook everything up then when I pull it back it ends up upside-down and I can reverse launch... I just nosedive into the ground where ever I want to pack up and do it all in reverse... worked GREAT today! John Holgate - 23-4-2015 at 02:43 PM Sounds good, Spencer ssayre - 23-4-2015 at 02:46 PM Man that's a nice looking wing Spencer. Quote: Hey are you guys following the new Mad Way Mongolia buggy trek that just started another expedition a few days ago - see one of the shots posted today I found this picture on the latest madway south adventure. Nothing around for miles and they chose to fly some one liners around power lines 3shot - 23-4-2015 at 03:02 PM WOOHOO!!!! Look at her go. Does look nice with those colors. For initial setup, I do pretty much like a standard foil. Only exception is I use a couple water bottles to weight down the trailing edge until liftoff. A couple yanks and up she goes. For changing kites and pack up, I fly it to the edge of the window, and tip the bar like Steffan. Stake it down, and it will sit right there on its side bouncing a little. I then put a knee on the upwind tip. Untie the down wind tip, then the center, then the upwind tip. I can then roll the kite up in a snap. Or change a kite size and re tie in the reverse order. The bar and stake never move. The new kite will then bounce on the edge while you return to your bar for centerline adjustment and re launch. Cant wait to stretch their wings at JIBE! soliver - 23-4-2015 at 04:10 PM Man, I LUVR that one handed flying stuff of sho!!! 3shot - 23-4-2015 at 04:23 PM Yup. Definitely a candidate for a buggy with a built in cup holder now. LOL ssayre - 27-4-2015 at 09:18 AM 3shot - 27-4-2015 at 02:49 PM nice find!! soliver - 27-4-2015 at 03:57 PM Nice indeed! Thanks Sean soliver - 28-4-2015 at 03:27 PM Anything new on the competition, John? Still working out the bugs? no biggie,... just curious. :puzzled: John Holgate - 28-4-2015 at 03:57 PM I'm expecting to be able to announce something any day now.....touch wood..... 3shot - 28-4-2015 at 05:15 PM My offer still stands. If I win, it goes to Spencer. (if rules allow that) bigE123 - 29-4-2015 at 07:45 AM And has anyone seen this yet? Found it in a German kite magazine: Now tell me there are not Peak traits there, looks so similar it's uncanny! ssayre - 29-4-2015 at 07:51 AM Wow BigE, great find! Like you've said, exciting times for sure! Sure it has some Peak characteristics, but that's not surprising that there's going to be some similar designs. After all, most of the major brands have similar designs for their foils, lei's, and depowers. rofer - 29-4-2015 at 08:24 AM Forecast says 2-6mph today, but I finally have my NS3s! Hopefully things'll pick up a little tomorrow. Edit: I couldn't resist at least getting the 8.5m in the air to see how it looks and it was certainly impressive. Whenever there was about 5mph of wind it would actually start to pull. I think if I had the space to build up any apparent wind I could get moving. John Holgate - 29-4-2015 at 02:35 PM Steffen's been talking about the Ultra Star for 18 months or so but I hadn't seen any designs on it. Didn't know it was going to be a depower. Looking forward to having a play with one of those :D Can't agree with it being uncannily like the Peak though - I guess any moderate aspect single skin kite is going to end up looking like the Peak. I just hope it doesn't flap like the peak! bigE123 - 29-4-2015 at 02:44 PM :D :D that made me lol The nominations for this year's flapping award are....... 3shot - 29-4-2015 at 02:49 PM Great find E!!!! Man I like those. Course... I like just about any kite. soliver - 29-4-2015 at 03:18 PM Agreed... very cool looking... Still likely to just stick with the NASA style though. Its kinda funny though.. you can actually see the NASA wing shape to it. John Holgate - 1-5-2015 at 03:19 PM Evidently, Steffen has two new models including the UltraStar to be released in the next few months - 2015 is shaping up to be Year of the Single Skin Kites. Quote: I'm expecting to be able to announce something any day now.....touch wood..... hmmmm....atm I can only announce there's some problems with new servers...sigh. Hopefully, it won't hold things up much longer. IMK - 1-5-2015 at 11:14 PM John, any hints about the other new kite? Is it a FB version of the Ultrastar? John Holgate - 2-5-2015 at 12:43 AM Quote: John, any hints about the other new kite? Is it a FB version of the Ultrastar? It's a Lead Edge Depower system (I don't know the details) but it has a much wider window than the NS3. We should know more in a few weeks. :D IMK - 2-5-2015 at 03:04 AM Thanks John. Very interesting. soliver - 9-5-2015 at 09:11 PM So I flew the 7m NS3 yesterday in SUPER light wind (sub-10mph) in the buggy at JIBE... in fact I had to take the Tandem Hitch off the XR+ and use it rather than the Stinger to even get rolling, but I found I really enjoyed it.... super smooth and easy to fly. I was one of the few people able to be continuously moving. One weird thing happened though, and I just really though it was funny. I looked down after I was done flying and the carabiner that attaches the 3rd line to the harness had clamped itself onto the chicken loop and the QR for the 3rd line had come loose. SO... I somehow undid the depower line QR and the hook on the harness became attached to the Chicken loop... weird! ssayre - 10-5-2015 at 12:05 PM sub 10 is doing good in the buggy. I'm not following you on what happened with the qr and depow line?? Do you attach the biner of the depower line to the special attachment that mounts to your existing spreader bar? If I'm following you correctly, if you would have hit the main safety, then the kite would not have still been attached via the 3rd line? I haven't had that happen yet. John Holgate - 10-5-2015 at 02:51 PM Does sound a little weird - my biner's have stayed where they're suppose to be. Check for Gremlins. soliver - 10-5-2015 at 08:13 PM It was definitely a gremlin style coincidence, and understandably hard to to follow... but it was 2 separate things that happened that turned into just a weird thing: A.First of all I was NOT using the special attachment piece for the spreader bar and depower line. My Hook Spreader has a short 1/4 round bar welded in the middle of the hook that I clip the carabiner to for the 3rd line... its easier for me that way because when I use the special piece included with the set-up it ends up in exactly the same place B. Somehow I hit and released the QR for the 3rd lines so the carabiner was still attached to my spreader hook. C. Somehow after that ^^^, the chicken loop got hooked into the carabiner such that it was essentially permanently hooked into the spreader loop... weird! ssayre - 10-5-2015 at 08:42 PM Sounds like that would be impossible if you were using the separate attachment or clipped the biner with the opening up instead of down maybe. You might have accidentally stumbled on the reason for the separate attachment. It's easy to install. What's your beef with the born kite factory attachment method? :P soliver - 11-5-2015 at 06:18 AM No beef.... just more of an ease of use thing... why add participants to the equation if its already easy to solve. I may try it again a different way than I had it. ssayre - 11-5-2015 at 12:29 PM Just giving you a hard time. I'm not the Nasa Star police. John Holgate - 11-5-2015 at 02:50 PM Quote: I'm not the Nasa Star police. Hah, now there's an idea.....we could form a posse !! soliver - 11-5-2015 at 03:11 PM Quote: Originally posted by ssayre   Just giving you a hard time. I'm not the Nasa Star police. Well, I'm terribly offended Sean... As president of your chapter of the JWC, I expect a formal written apology or I will henceforth renounce your membership and revoke your t-shirt and name tag. no worries... that thingy just didn't seem to work so well for me, but I'm willing to give it a try. ssayre - 12-5-2015 at 07:10 AM Quote: I will henceforth renounce your membership and revoke your t-shirt and name tag. I'm JWC for life and have learned to embrace it. :D soliver - 12-5-2015 at 08:36 AM Apology accepted! Me too friend! soliver - 12-5-2015 at 06:27 PM On Saint Simons Island this week (one step north of Jekyll Island) for Vacation with the family. Got the kids to bed early and still had some daylight to burn before sundown so I took the Peter Lynn Buggy up to the beach. I saw the forecast was pretty light air and when I got to the beach it was dead still. I sat through a little drizzle and said a prayer and the wind picked up to probably around 6-7mph a few degrees south of on-shore. I set up the 7m and had a nice little sunset session. I really only got one good run back and forth before it turned further south with the setting sun. Packed it up and walked back in the dark... nice. Let me ask you guys though... Maybe its the super light wind I was in, but I was having trouble keeping the kite "inflated" when turning on the downwind tack. When I was moving slightly downwind and tried to turn back the other way I couldn't keep the kite in the air when I had the buggy turning... lost all my line tension... I had the same trouble on Jekyll last week. It seemed like what worked best was to bring the kite way up and start to turn so there was room to recover before it ended up on the ground.... Any suggestions? ssayre - 12-5-2015 at 06:49 PM Combination of light air and running slightly downwind will cause that. Sounds like you already know the solution. Keep the kite high on a turn. Sometimes when longboarding downwind I actually have to fly it back the opposite deirection if the turn and back to keep it up. ssayre - 12-5-2015 at 06:51 PM I will also zig zag what I'm riding to keep tension in lines when going downwind. I find that the stars are good going upwind up to approximately a 20-25 degree angle. Past that upwind and downwind are equally very difficult. ssayre - 12-5-2015 at 06:55 PM Let me re phrase. If the wind is blowing cross on at a 20-25 degree angle. Not sure if that's the same as heading.

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