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Pass the Pansh & Brooza Program

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Pablo - 7-11-2007 at 09:39 PM

Which way did the Brooza go?

BeamerBob - 8-11-2007 at 03:56 AM

The Brooza is off to Gilligan, and the Ace is headed to SThrasher.

Sthrasher38 - 9-11-2007 at 08:26 PM

Fuzzy bridles? Not good! I will look at it closely before I even try to fly. I Am not a repair man so if I dont think it is safe to hold my 220lb.A#% I'll send it home. Man Bob did you have to tear it all up before I could get a chance to try? Just kidding:D I will be happy just to check it out to put my to cents in about the Ace. Thanks again everyone.

Sthrasher38 - 10-11-2007 at 02:33 PM

Bob, You sent the Ace on wensday? It is saturday How long do you think it will take to get here? Mon. is a holiday so that may delay a little.

BeamerBob - 12-11-2007 at 07:06 AM

They were supposed to send me an email with tracking info I didn't get. I sent it in at the end of the day Wednesday so it may not have hit the streets till Thursday pickup.

I didn't crash into my car with it or anything. :D

It picked me up more than 6 feet without me really knowing how to jump. I'm 235 right now and the bridle was probably like that when I got it since I was just flying in a grassy field and then for a few minutes at the beach. So if it held me ok it is probably ok for anyone. I was packing in low light in my garage so it could be that I didn't see what I thought I saw. It could be just the ends of a splice but I wanted to make note of it so nobody got hurt.

Sthrasher38 - 12-11-2007 at 09:29 AM

Thank you.

gerd1022 - 12-11-2007 at 09:37 AM

about the bridle on the pansh... i already had to replace a brake bridle on my 8m Ace... luckily i had plenty of bridle line around... the replacement is better quality than the original.

the core fibers of the original line weren't even braided, just straight fibers with the sleeving around it. once the sleeving frayed, the whole line was shot... i guess you get what you pay for. either way you still cant beat the price even if you have to make some repairs

Pablo - 12-11-2007 at 12:20 PM

Hey, what do you expect, they're a decent flying kite for a decent price. A little maintenance once in a while is a small price to pay. And for the cost of the Pansh you can get a decent quiver for the cost of one high end kite. They'll get the job done for the time being.

What I'd suggest though is that once the kites start wearing out on you, If you love the sport and want to keep flying, you replace them one by one with higher end kites.

I'm assuming the Brooza's still in decent shape? Haven't seen it in a while.

BeamerBob - 12-11-2007 at 01:22 PM

In the end, I never got/took advantage of a chance to fly it. Therefore I didn't even unpack it. Getting it and the Ace at the same time during a period with virtually no wind didn't give me a shot at it. I had one day I could fly the Ace and used one hour to get the lines right and an hour and a half to fly it. I set it up on the beach on 11/4 but didn't fly it because I was keeping my two boys kites in the air and taking a pass with Angus' buggy. The Ace flew for a few minutes before I packed it but that was it. The wind at the beach was so low we were using Angus' 8.3 Peter Lynn Reactor and sometimes I was under powered so I didn't take the precious time to get lines hooked up and adjusted on a 5.5 when an 8.3 was only adequate that day. Maybe another day.

Sthrasher38 - 12-11-2007 at 02:13 PM

I just got the kite today on Vetrans day. It was windy yesterday but not so good today we will see what happens and I will get back at cha. Always nice to get it on a weekday. When I have to watch the wind blow while I am at work. :borg:

Sthrasher38 - 16-11-2007 at 05:29 PM

Well it is friday and still not enough wind to try out the Ace. All I can do is pray for some wind this weekend so I can try it out. :borg:

Sthrasher38 - 19-11-2007 at 07:13 PM

Thanks DaVinch for letting me try the Ace. Pretty impressed. I only got to fly for a min. So I am going to keep it for another week if thats ok. I would like to see how it pulls in a buggy before I send it on. Where is it going next? Shoot me a u2u with the damage on this one it might not be going anywhere. Thanks again.

SecondWind - 19-11-2007 at 07:34 PM

No problem Sthrasher - try to use it with the buggy before sending it out.

What kind of damage - sail or bridle lines? Any pics?

Thanks!

Joe

gilligan - 20-11-2007 at 01:19 PM

Got the Brooza Saturday... beautiful crisp clear days here with no wind. Hopefully I'll get to fly it this weekend.

Should I send it to Baluk in Canada when I'm done, or has there been a change in order?

Bob

BTW, thanks Pablo!

BeamerBob - 20-11-2007 at 01:30 PM

I think he wants a price to just keep it as in "damage" to his bank account. I'm curious to see if Thrasher saw what I was referring to when I commented about a fuzzy bridle line? I understand why he wants to keep it. I was really impressed with it and might still get one. I'd love to get one with more color like the 4m but would want the 5 or 6 for the float.

elkiter - 20-11-2007 at 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gilligan
Got the Brooza Saturday... beautiful crisp clear days here with no wind. Hopefully I'll get to fly it this weekend.

Hey Bob,

Where will you be flying this weekend? Do you want to meet at Shoreline this Friday? It's really windy outside right now (up to tomorrow as predicted). Hopefully
it continues till the long weekend.

Let me know, I'll bring the 6.5 Butan for you to try as well.

Late,

Junior (aka elkiter)

gilligan - 20-11-2007 at 05:31 PM

Hey Junior!

OK you talked me into it... I'll try to make Shoreline after work on Friday. Should be about 4 o'clock... what does that give us, about an hour? Lol.

Bob

Pablo - 20-11-2007 at 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gilligan
Got the Brooza Saturday... beautiful crisp clear days here with no wind. Hopefully I'll get to fly it this weekend.

Should I send it to Baluk in Canada when I'm done, or has there been a change in order?

Bob

BTW, thanks Pablo!

Yeah, no bites in it state side, so may as well ship it to Baluk.

Baluk - 20-11-2007 at 09:28 PM

Sounds good! Pablo, just curious for Gilligan, does he send with full value and insurance etc?

Sthrasher38 - 21-11-2007 at 03:21 PM

Your right Bob. About the price thing & the fuzzy bridle line. They are showing a little sign of wear but not to bad No other damage to the kite DaVinch. And yes how much damage to the bank account. Thanks. :smilegrin:

Ok I will try with the buggy first. Thanks. If I do decide to send it where does it go?

SecondWind - 21-11-2007 at 04:40 PM

Hey Sthrasher,

I would rather not sell it yet - maybe at the end of it's rounds.

Wind-Dave was next on the list :thumbup:

Sthrasher38 - 21-11-2007 at 04:45 PM

Awww man! I think $800.00 was fair.:D Ok after Thanksging weekend off to Wind-Dave.

Dave send a u2u with you address.

Pablo - 21-11-2007 at 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Baluk
Sounds good! Pablo, just curious for Gilligan, does he send with full value and insurance etc?

I always ship stuff with full insurance, In Canada, it's something like $1 for every $100 worth of product being shipped. Used kite though, $200 for insurance should be plenty. It's really up to each person though, If it goes missing on someone, it'll be sort of like they bought it. So it's really up to the shipper what they want to do.

Pablo - 26-11-2007 at 08:42 PM

Hey Gilligan, Hold onto it until wed, I may have another stop for it in the states, just waiting to hear an answer.

gilligan - 28-11-2007 at 11:39 AM

O.K... my wind has SUCKED anyway. Thanks!

Sthrasher38 - 28-11-2007 at 05:19 PM

Wind dave, I am going to keep the Ace one more weekend so I can take it to the beach. When I get home on tues. or wens. the 4 or 5th I will send it to you. Thanks again DaVinch. Snowbird I am going to try out a new land board soon so don't write it off just yet. :borg:

SecondWind - 28-11-2007 at 08:30 PM

No problem Sthrasher.

Fly it like you stole it :thumbup:

Just no direct hits into cars like that Tridude guy did :lol:

Pablo - 28-11-2007 at 11:28 PM

Hey Gilligan, The 5.5m Brooza's going to DeadHead when you're done with it. Give him a shout to get shipping details.

Sthrasher38 - 29-11-2007 at 05:46 PM

Wind dave I need you address again So I can send the Ace soon. :borg:

Sthrasher38 - 4-12-2007 at 06:50 PM

I was going to send the Ace out on sat. the 8th. But I need an address to send it to! Wind dave where are you?:puzzled:

Sthrasher38 - 5-12-2007 at 05:30 PM

DaVinch, Where do you want the Ace to go if wind dave dosen't reply with an address?:puzzled:

barnes - 5-12-2007 at 05:50 PM

Whats the list on the Ace? I'd love to give the kite a try!

SecondWind - 6-12-2007 at 04:18 PM

Hello Sthrasher - sorry for the slow reply.

Not sure where Wind Dave is??

Lets just move on for now. Barnes are you ready for the Ace?

If so, Sthrasher just needs your shipping info!

barnes - 6-12-2007 at 08:11 PM

Sure! I'm u2u sthrasher.

Sthrasher38 - 7-12-2007 at 07:57 PM

ok guys,I am going to use it tomorrow but I will send it to barns on mon. Thanks DaVinch. barns get ready you got a cool kite comming in the mail! Thanks to the forum and its members.

Sthrasher38 - 9-12-2007 at 05:47 PM

Ok, I got barns address Kite is on the way! I got to try it in the bug pretty nice but the wind was a little strong that day for that size A little over powered A coulpe of guys got to try and the were pretty impressed with the Pansh! :borg:

P.S. Sorry I can't send wind with it We need all we can get here. I hear alot of people saying NO WIND.

SecondWind - 9-12-2007 at 08:41 PM

Glad it went well with the Pansh Strash - how is it holding up?

Sthrasher38 - 10-12-2007 at 05:59 PM

The kite is fine No major damage anywhere. Just like Bob said Just one bridle line looked a little ruffed But other than that kite is in great shape. :borg:

I shipped it today with 200.00 insurance.

SecondWind - 10-12-2007 at 07:38 PM

Thanks for the update Sthrasher.

Let us know how it goes Barnes :thumbup:

barnes - 10-12-2007 at 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by DaVinch
Thanks for the update Sthrasher.

Let us know how it goes Barnes :thumbup:

I'm hoping for a shipping miracle to catch the winds coming in on Wednesday and Thursday.

Sthrasher38 - 10-12-2007 at 08:08 PM

It should be there by thursday. And what the hell I sent it with wind! :borg:

Baluk - 10-12-2007 at 08:12 PM

Did you seal the box so the wind can't get out?

barnes - 10-12-2007 at 08:25 PM

Yeah, your going to have to take that back from my cold dead hands. :yes:

Sthrasher38 - 11-12-2007 at 08:22 AM

Sealed with duct tape baby!

Baluk - 11-12-2007 at 02:00 PM

Ou la la!

barnes - 12-12-2007 at 05:36 PM

Got the Ace today! Nice 8mph winds, but I couldn't make it out. Long story involving no ride what so ever.

Now a snowstorm rolls through...I hope I can find some time to fly it soon!

Sthrasher38 - 13-12-2007 at 07:33 AM

Cool glad you got it! Enjoy.:singing:

barnes - 14-12-2007 at 04:02 PM

Well, this kite is confusing me. I couldn't get it to take off. I switched the brake lines for the power lines, and it took right off. Maybe my lines got stretched recently.

I put the kite up directly downwind. The wind didn't seem all to might at that point. I had a nice muddy skud down the football field. The kite took me up about 4 feet, took me about 30 feet downwind and dropped me off nice and lightly. It would have been awesome, if I was expecting it. I then packed it up considering the horrible winds (so much for a good new flying spot.) cold, and muddy weather, and the fact I needed to get to work. I walked in covered in mud and my boss said "So, you got the kite didn't you?"

Can't wait to fly it in steady winds. Control my own jumps. But awesome amazingly lift kite. Acts a bit like a kid on a sugar high, but good fun.

Sthrasher38 - 14-12-2007 at 04:48 PM

Your lines must be streched. It flew fine for me. Are you using kite killers? sounds like you had to chase it a little. How can you hook the brakes up as main lines and fly fine? Did I miss understand something?:puzzled:

barnes - 14-12-2007 at 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sthrasher38
Your lines must be streched. It flew fine for me. Are you using kite killers? sounds like you had to chase it a little. How can you hook the brakes up as main lines and fly fine? Did I miss understand something?:puzzled:

I wish I understood too! I'm going to inspect it more when its not so cold and I have gloves on. I'm getting a new set of HQ lines soon anyways. Super confused, but I got it in the air. :tumble:

Sthrasher38 - 14-12-2007 at 05:01 PM

Can someone help us out here?:?:

barnes - 14-12-2007 at 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sthrasher38
Can someone help us out here?:?:

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I suspect its my lines (or something I'm doing horribly wrong.), but it was strange when I had it hooked up as I had on my Blaze only to find it to not get more then 5 feet off the ground.

kiteNH - 14-12-2007 at 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Sthrasher38
Can someone help us out here?:?:

I think he means that he swapped his flying lines and brake lines completely. At the kite and the handles.

I don't think he means that the brakes are tied to the top of the handles and power lines to the bottom. Because that just wouldn't fly.

Sthrasher38 - 14-12-2007 at 05:28 PM

My bad. Thanks.

barnes - 14-12-2007 at 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by kiteNH

Quote:

Originally posted by Sthrasher38
Can someone help us out here?:?:

Correct. I still don't know why the power lines wouldn't work. Hopefully I can put my new HQ lines on it and learn it works just fine and avoid using the Pansh lines at all costs.

Pablo - 14-12-2007 at 05:57 PM

Makes perfect sense, if the flying lines stretched a fair bit then you've effectively shortened the brake lines or basically applied the brakes. If you've got enough tension constantly on the brake lines it will keep the kite from flying at all.

Switch the brake lines with the flying lines at both ends, now you should have nice tight front lines and a good bow/sag in the brake lines. While the kite will fly this way, be careful, Most linesets will use something like 300kg lines for the flying lines, and only 100kg lines for the brakes, some use even softer brake lines BC they're not supposed to ever hold any real weight, just enough pressure to collapse the kite. Jumping with the lines switched is a good way to get dropped.

BeamerBob - 14-12-2007 at 06:12 PM

Both Pansh kites, including the one you have, that I've flown really don't like the brakes being applied. If you have some tension on the brakes with the bottoms of the handles pointing slightly toward the kite then the brakes are too tight. One trick I've done on them is tie the brake lines on as long as you can and then start shortening the power lines on your handle leaders. It took me awhile to get that ace right but then woohoo!:o

Pablo - 14-12-2007 at 07:17 PM

Easy enough to make up a couple pigtails as well to extend the brake lines. I usually have a couple sets in the kitebag just in case, Basically a length of the thicker surf kite bridal line doubled over, tie a knot 3" up the line, then one every 1-2" or so. make them about 6" long total. Larks head the loop end of it to the brake line leader then you have a series of adjustment knots so you can easily loosen off the brake lines until you get the sweet spot. Make them ahead of time, keep some handy. I usually end up losing them pretty quick. You help someone out with tuning their kite and another pair is gone. Cost is low though, easy way to help the people around you.

barnes - 19-12-2007 at 08:59 PM

I'm going to fly it tomorrow in the predicted 10mph winds. (that is if I can find gas money...) Probably won't be jumping in those winds, but I can get the line issues figured out.

Baluk - 19-12-2007 at 09:02 PM

Just curious how the Brooza is doing. And anytime its ready to head back up (Pablo) I'd love to try it out.

Pablo - 20-12-2007 at 05:53 PM

Hey Baluk,

I believe the 5.5m Brooza has found a home down south, I'll be putting another one out to finish the tour early Jan. I need to keep some kites around for some out of town guests over christmas, so probably get it in the mail after the first week of Jan.

A Combat will probably be heading south at about the same time, I'll announce that in a seperate thread when it's heading out.

Baluk - 20-12-2007 at 05:57 PM

Cool, cool.

barnes - 23-12-2007 at 05:43 PM

Is anyone in line for the Ace?

SecondWind - 23-12-2007 at 06:17 PM

You were the last one that I know of Barnes.

Anyone else want to try her out?

barnes - 23-12-2007 at 08:17 PM

I might be running into some more kiters in the area soon, I'll see if I can pass it off.

My friend got a 6m Ace for christmas, so I'll be able to fly one whenever I want, so if anyone wants this guy, its all you!:singing:

Deadhead - 24-12-2007 at 11:52 AM

If DaVinch has no objections, would be interested in giving the Ace a try.........

SecondWind - 24-12-2007 at 01:09 PM

Sure thing Deadhead.

Barnes, can you please ship it out when you are finished - thanks!

barnes - 28-12-2007 at 02:18 PM

Kite is in the mail on its way to Deadhead, insured too.

Enjoy! Thanks a lot DaVinch, had a great time with it! :D

SecondWind - 28-12-2007 at 08:20 PM

Sounds good barnes - thanks for the update!

Deadhead - 5-1-2008 at 05:39 PM

Joe, got the 5m yesterday - gonna give it a go tomorrow. Who's getting it next, or does it go back to you?

SecondWind - 11-1-2008 at 08:58 PM

How's it going with the Ace DeadHead?

Not sure where it's off to next - anyone else want to try the 5m Ace?

Deadhead - 13-1-2008 at 05:06 PM

Had the chance to fly it static in about 14 (and dirty) winds earlier this past week. Nice little kite - a little bit of lift, with pretty good power delivery through the window. Set the brakes a bit loose, and she handled well. As mentioned earlier, a bit of tip curling at the edge of the window. Had hoped to try it with the bug this weekend, in some cleaner wind - but alas, winds were dead offshore, and not enough beach.........

Haev it all packed up ready to go - just let me know where.

SecondWind - 13-1-2008 at 09:17 PM

Do you want some more time with it? There is no rush to send her home.

Joe

Deadhead - 14-1-2008 at 08:16 PM

Joe if you don't have any objection, I"ll keep it for another week. Forecast for this weekend looks pretty good. Thanks

SecondWind - 14-1-2008 at 08:34 PM

OK - Sounds good DeadHead

After that, we can wrap up the 5m Pass a Pansh program!

It went really well :thumbup:

I'm glad so many people got to try it out.

Taper123 - 23-1-2008 at 06:20 PM

I'll give it a whirl if the weatehr's good this weekend. I think I know where DeadHead will be :spin:

SecondWind - 23-1-2008 at 06:31 PM

Sure Taper, not a problem.

speleopower - 23-1-2008 at 07:07 PM

If the pass the Pansh is still going on I'd like to give it a try. I'd like to know what the Pansh is all about.

SecondWind - 23-1-2008 at 08:51 PM

Deadhead,

Can you please send the Ace to Spele after you and Taper have flown it.

Thanks!

Deadhead - 25-1-2008 at 12:01 AM

Will do Joe - hey Spele, drop me a U2U with your address and I"ll get it out this coming Monday.

Deadhead - 27-1-2008 at 01:39 PM

Great day here after all the rain and cold......... mid 60's, sun shining, just beautiful...........only one small problem - NO WIND!! :flaming:

Spelo, got the Ace out today - you should have it mid week or so. Hope you have better luck with the wind goddess!

action jackson - 27-1-2008 at 02:47 PM

Get that wind suckin kite out of this state as ASAP please, I am having withdraws............aj

speleopower - 27-1-2008 at 05:53 PM

This morning it was 25-35 mph wind. Yesterday was a light breeze and 3-5' waves. Here's the link to my photobucket and some jetski videos from yesterday-couple backflips, rolls and wave rides.

http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd82/speleopower/?action=...

Later-Scott

speleopower - 31-1-2008 at 04:11 PM

Hi-I got the kite today undamaged and ready to fly-sort of. The bridles where a mess of tangles. I need to post up a short video on how to pack a kite on my Photobucket page.

First impressions of a kite are important and I'm not super impressed. The bridle system looks fragile and is made from "lesser" quality lines than I'm used to. It looks like I'll break the bridle lines easily.

I like the canopy it is slick looking. The colors are cool and the fabric feels ok.

Right now there is zero wind so I can't even hook up some lines and give it a whirl. But I don't think I trust this one to higher winds and surfing in the ocean. We'll see. First impressions are not always correct!!

See ya'll later-Scott

Deadhead - 31-1-2008 at 05:45 PM

Mea culpa, mea culpa......... packed it up on that first try in a bit of a hurry, and didn't get a chance to re do it..............

speleopower - 31-1-2008 at 07:56 PM

No big deal. I figured it was packed in a hurry. I spent about 45 min to 1 hour getting it undone. :ticking:

It was good because I got to inspect the lines and attachment points up close. Not sure I like the loosely braided bridle line. I've got a feeling it would not last long on the beach with lots of sand working it's way into the line.

I've give the kite a shot and maybe get to do some ATB riding with it. I'm a little sketched about taking it on the water due to the bridle line.

Scott

kullas - 31-1-2008 at 08:27 PM

Is it to late to get on the list for the Ace. Im wanting to try something with a little lift

BeamerBob - 31-1-2008 at 08:43 PM

I'm gonna have my Ace and all my other kites at Fernandina beach (Amelia Island FL) next weekend. I'd love to share with anyone that could make it. Anyone interested? It's the weekend of the 16th, a long weekend for some.

motman - 31-1-2008 at 09:55 PM

Hey I would love to give this a try if DV doesn't mind.

BeamerBob - 1-2-2008 at 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeamerBob
I'm gonna have my Ace and all my other kites at Fernandina beach (Amelia Island FL) next weekend. I'd love to share with anyone that could make it. Anyone interested? It's the weekend of the 16th, a long weekend for some.

Some edits to the above post

speleopower - 1-2-2008 at 08:11 PM

I'm hoping to get the kite out and give it a whirl tomorrow if there is any wind! :thumbup:

Scott

speleopower - 4-2-2008 at 11:15 AM

aaaaarrrrggggg!!!!! Still no wind around here!!!!!! I'm dying to try the Pansh

Scott

motman - 7-2-2008 at 05:29 PM

^ I feel bad for you. Our wind sock here is a chain. :spin:

speleopower - 7-2-2008 at 07:00 PM

I'm getting crushed. There was wind all day but it died in the afternoon!!!! Still haven't tried the kite. Maybe this weekend.
Scott

BeamerBob - 8-2-2008 at 05:55 AM

You guys should show at least some general location in your control panel, if not your city and state/province, so we know where you are without having to remember something you said months ago. I think it makes this more a community if we at least know what portion of what state/province you live in. I guess a chain for a windsock has its pluses and minuses huh? For many of the posters here, I can see their name and then picture on a national or state map where they are and it helps to put their weather conditions in perspective.

motman - 8-2-2008 at 06:24 AM

Well it's not necessarily that bad by any means here. But once you get to Kansas, hold your hat.

SecondWind - 8-2-2008 at 06:25 AM

Sure kullas and Motman. We'll add you to the list after Spele!

Joe

speleopower - 8-2-2008 at 05:08 PM

Didn't even think about putting a city into my profile! Yup it's dead calm tonight again.
Thanks for the idea-Scott

speleopower - 9-2-2008 at 02:59 PM

Today's report....no wind.

speleopower - 12-2-2008 at 03:53 PM

Still no good wind.... :thumbdown:

I was able to fly my Blade 4.9 meter for a few minutes after work but there was not enough time to get the lines switched over to the Pansh.

Who is next in line?

Next question is does anyone have an objection to me keeping the kite for another week?

Thanks-Scott

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