We made the bridles 24" longer, was a lot of work extending each line.kitemaker4 - 30-7-2010 at 06:10 PM
You added 24 inches to each of the bridle lines where they attach to the kite? That would mean 48 extensions. Trying to understand what you did.
Looks like I will be making a new kite and try out the longer bridle lines.
Susan (npw goddess)manofthewind - 16-9-2010 at 01:46 PM
Hi guys was wondering if anyone has made a NPW-HA im very interested in this kind of nasa wing but was wondering if it was any good or not thank you
josh kitemaker4 - 16-9-2010 at 02:42 PM
Someone on the forum has made a npw-ha nasa wing. His user name in Van. I am not sure how it came out. I have found that the npw9 works best. I
have made a few of the teega kites and they did not do as well as the npw9 so that is what I am sticking with for now.
Susan ( npw goddess )manofthewind - 19-9-2010 at 01:24 PM
cool thank you Taper123 - 23-9-2010 at 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by kitemaker4
Susan ( npw goddess )
Susan does make some great quality kites.
:roll: Hey Susan... I'll race ya to the water tower and back with one of my homemade kites against yours :wee:
Winner has to cook the Turkeys, and the loser has to carve them up...kitemaker4 - 24-9-2010 at 05:48 AM
Quote:
:roll: Hey Susan... I'll race ya to the water tower and back with one of my homemade kites against yours :wee:
Winner has to cook the Turkeys, and the loser has to carve them up...
No problem but don't we do that already. :singing:
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 18-2-2011 at 10:08 AM
It has been a while but this is what I am working on now to bring to nabx. This is the center panel for a npw9 9 meter.
Susan (npw goddess)jokiter - 18-2-2011 at 12:33 PM
Great job - love it! Would be great to see the nasa when it's done.
Which seams did you use for that? I'm currently working on a similar piece for a single line kite and have some issue with 'pucking'.kitemaker4 - 18-2-2011 at 02:43 PM
I am using a straight stitch and zig-zag on the raw edges. Puckering happens when you do not line up the material and things are not coming out
even. You can not be rushed on something like this. You have to line up everything. Good luck.
Susan (npw goddess)jokiter - 18-2-2011 at 03:54 PM
Thanks for the tip. Continue via u2uTaper123 - 18-2-2011 at 05:59 PM
A little double sided fabric tape to keep it aligned before ya sew goes a long ways to prevent puckering as well. Even if you just use little pieces
here and there. BTW: Nice pattern.lunchbox - 18-2-2011 at 09:43 PM
Hey Susan, what size would you recommend if my go to kite is an PL 8.3 Reactor?kitemaker4 - 19-2-2011 at 08:09 AM
bobalooie57 - 19-2-2011 at 03:58 PM
That's a beautiful center panel, goddess. I, too, would love to see it in flight when finished. I hope you have light enough(for a while at least)
wind to fly it at NABX, and you have the playa to yourself, 'cause no-one else can get anything to fly!kitemaker4 - 20-2-2011 at 08:23 AM
kitemaker4 - 2-3-2011 at 12:02 PM
Here is the npw9 9 meter ready for the bridle lines.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 17-3-2011 at 07:19 AM
Here is a picture of the finished kite. Ready to fly in the desert.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 21-3-2011 at 03:00 PM
Here is the latest kite I made. It is a npw9 2.25.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 5-7-2011 at 08:53 AM
This is what I am working on now. It is now finished. Ready to move on to its new home.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 7-7-2011 at 08:03 AM
I have posted an updated picture.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 8-12-2011 at 06:48 PM
Been working on a new kite. It is a 10 meter. Here is a picture. I just need to bridle it.
Susan (npw goddess)SecondWind - 8-12-2011 at 11:25 PM
Lookin' good Susan
Your NPWs are top notch...kitemaker4 - 9-12-2011 at 08:22 AM
Thanks for the compliment.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 8-1-2012 at 07:01 PM
It took me a while to take a picture of the finished 10 meter. Here it is.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 8-5-2012 at 10:56 AM
My next kite project. It is a npw9 4.5.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 15-5-2012 at 11:19 AM
Here is a picture of the 4.5 all done.
Susan (npw goddess)arkay - 15-5-2012 at 12:59 PM
nice!
Albeit probably trivial for you... do you have patterns and bridal instructions for npw5's? I'd say 9 too, but I don't that'll be my first one rectifier - 15-5-2012 at 02:46 PM
I built a NPW9b as my first ever kite build. Personally I think there is no reason to build a NPW5 first, they are a very similar build but the 9b has
much better window, pull and upwind performance. Here is a head to head review of the two models, the NPW5 may just turn you off of the nasawing
style. http://www.drevill.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kitefreeks/reviews/n...
I love my NPW9, it has plenty of power for a 1m kite, I was out scudding in the park with it last week (ok, 40mph wind)
Anyways I don't think NPW9 is an intimidating build, especially compared to NPW5 they are basically the samekitemaker4 - 15-5-2012 at 05:39 PM
Arkay
u2u sent.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 18-5-2012 at 10:36 AM
Working on a small one right now. Npw9 1.2. Needs the darts sewn and bridle lines.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 28-5-2012 at 01:59 PM
Npw9 1.2 finished. Here is a picture.
Susan (npw goddess)KAZEDOKA - 2-6-2012 at 09:42 AM
Susan, Thank you received and sailed the 4.5 yesterday nice session in marginal wind, excellent workmanship and
communication. Regardskitemaker4 - 2-6-2012 at 03:40 PM
Great. Glad you like them.
Susan (nwp goddess)kitemaker4 - 12-6-2012 at 10:59 AM
My latest creation. Its a 2.5 meter npw9.
Susan (npw goddess)bigkid - 12-6-2012 at 11:06 AM
Susan, is that black and green? I like those colors.
Van needs to get one with black and florescent green, to go with that bug.kitemaker4 - 12-6-2012 at 11:46 AM
Hey Jeff
The colors are purple and green. I took the picture this morning right before it started raining. It was very overcast and dark outside so, not the
best conditions for picture taking outside.
Susan (npw goddess)bigkid - 12-6-2012 at 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by kitemaker4
Hey Jeff
The colors are purple and green. I took the picture this morning right before it started raining. It was very overcast and dark outside so, not the
best conditions for picture taking outside.
Susan (npw goddess)
now I want to see the purple color,
Am I the only one that has to wait for like an hour for this one topic to load up? 3 million responses and 12 billion looks. Got to be the all-time
best of the best, way ta go Susan.OmniSmurfZ - 12-6-2012 at 03:32 PM
It's puurty, can't wait to fly it!..err My girlfriend can't wait to fly it!
Is there anyway you'd let out the plans to make one of these? I think I'd like to try it someday...kitemaker4 - 15-6-2012 at 02:39 PM
I finished up on the 2.5. Here is a picture.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 15-6-2012 at 02:42 PM
I started on a 3 meter npw3 in shades of orange. Here is a picture.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 28-6-2012 at 10:58 AM
Here is a picture of the 3 meter npw9 finished.
Here is a picture of the 3 meter on top of the 6 meter npw9.
Susan (npw goddess)bigkid - 28-6-2012 at 03:07 PM
I like the colors :bigok:
Any idea of how many you have made? (may have asked this before, you may have answered before, if so sorry dont remember)kitemaker4 - 28-6-2012 at 03:49 PM
I have not kept count of how many I have made.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 8-7-2012 at 11:12 AM
I finished up a 6 meter npw9 last week. Here is a picture.
Last night I finished a 9 meter npw9. Here is a picture.
I took a picture of the 3, 6 and 9 meter stacked on top of each other. Here is that picture.
Susan (npw goddess)bigkid - 8-7-2012 at 10:10 PM
Susan, I got out today with the 8m you made me and found that if you use the PKD handles with the kite, you can hook in with the strop and slowly work
the brakes with the cleats until the kite is perfectly balanced. Had a great couple of hours in the bug flying with one hand most of the time. will
try to post some of the vid.
Brings a completely different joy to power sliding through the surf.:wee:kitemaker4 - 9-7-2012 at 07:03 AM
Thanks for the info Jeff. I have two sets of pkd handles and do the same. Once you get the big kites dialed in you can go all day.
Susan (npw goddess)Taper123 - 12-7-2012 at 06:32 AM
I've got a couple yards of different shades of grey ripstop.
Maybe if you start making them like that it will catch on to the book craze and we'll have tons of excited women running around on the beach flying
kites....
Anyways... another nice NPW produced by the NPW Goddess. We all need to get together at the beach again sometime.kitemaker4 - 12-7-2012 at 02:01 PM
Thanks Steve. I agree it would be nice to see everyone but I would like it to be much cooler before I hit the beach again.
Susan (npw goddess)Taper123 - 12-7-2012 at 07:12 PM
Cooler? Want to pick a date.. say in October? Linda is having her knee replaced at the end of August... so maybe by October she'd be ready for the
beach kitemaker4 - 13-7-2012 at 06:56 AM
To early to think about picking a date. I am thinking about checking out the beach at sea rim state park this fall.
Susan (npw goddess)bigE123 - 16-7-2012 at 06:28 AM
Hi,
just thought I'd post a couple of my latest builds up. First is an 8m NPW "Batman:
Latest is my 11.8 NASA parawing:
This shot was taken on it's maiden flight, tweaked the nose bridle to give a better shape. Now working on depowering it!!bigE123 - 16-7-2012 at 06:35 AM
sorry duplicate post, trying to get pictures in...
Nice
skimtwashington - 16-7-2012 at 06:38 AM
Very cool Batman and.. also very very cool-and how appropriate....
....A Nasa Nasa !
How do you do that ....silk screen or what?
Good job everyone!bigE123 - 16-7-2012 at 06:49 AM
Thanks,
I used a technique called "applique", it's all hot cut rip-stop and stitched together. Thought my biggest build should make a bit of a statement :-)bigE123 - 16-7-2012 at 06:59 AM
Just on a slight side issue, the two kites are modified NPW21s using cascade bridles.
I made a 3m and 10m HA but found them very flighty and not very buggy friendly.
Is the NPW 21 better than a 9b? IMHO... in a word yes, very stable a much improved kite altogether.herc - 16-7-2012 at 07:13 AM
@bigE123, Susan: did you noticed my post on arcusers.net about a single skin arc kite ? its a sort of a nasawing but with no bridles :
it would be very interesting if you experienced kite builders could build a prototype !
@bigE123: i am looking forward to a video of your NPW21 kites in flight !bigE123 - 16-7-2012 at 07:30 AM
Little bit of vid static flying the 8m NPW21 with a depower setup but still on handles.
Wind was very very low 2-4mph. Must of smelt a bit coz the flys certainly had a good buzz around!!
First issue I had was the inability to back stall it, but that is now sorted. http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/Dogz-n-Mutz/media/NPW21/FI... bigE123 - 16-7-2012 at 09:57 AM
@Herc, interesting concept on the arc, I've checked the website out on it and the build plans. But to be honest I'm happy with sticking with the NPWs,
the arc still seems like a concept kite and would probably need a lot of input to get it to perform better than the NPWs I have.
On Herc's post of Single skin arc..
skimtwashington - 18-7-2012 at 02:54 PM
..... how well does singe skin bridal-less arc fly...that's the question? Upwind ability, luffing..etc..?greasehopper - 18-7-2012 at 09:05 PM
bigE123
The aspect ratio on the Model 21 looks far better than the one I did following the Model 5 bridling style with just the A's and B's. It appears to
handle well but, like any npw, doesn't get out to the edge as well as I would like. The High Aspect model I built had excellent edge performance but
very little pull through the middle of the window in comparison to the 5's and 9's I've flown. After seeing yours work so well in such light wind, I
think it might be time for me to revisit the Model 21. thanks for the vid.kitemaker4 - 29-7-2012 at 04:56 PM
Well I finished up my latest project. I made up a 1, 3, 6, 9 and 12 meter npw9 kites for a friend. Here are a few pictures. First is the 12 meter.
The 1 meter.
All of them stacked on top of each other.
And all bagged up.
Susan (npw goddess)bigkid - 30-7-2012 at 06:15 AM
wow, you even numbered the bags, how cool is that?
Nice colors, I like a matched set.
When are you going to sew a little tag on each kite to show the size and date and creators name? bobalooie57 - 30-7-2012 at 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by bigkid
wow, you even numbered the bags, how cool is that?
Nice colors, I like a matched set.
When are you going to sew a little tag on each kite to show the size and date and creators name?
That's a sweet stack of sacks! +1 for the tag with size/date/creator's name (+e-mail, for possible orders? I always brag up your kites when I'm
flying them!)kitemaker4 - 30-7-2012 at 12:16 PM
Thanks guys for the complements. I am sewing my logo on the kites now.
Susan (npw goddess)bigkid - 30-7-2012 at 03:24 PM
:bigok:
I used a fine tip sharpie to size, date, and autograph the kite for you Susan.kitemaker4 - 30-7-2012 at 03:59 PM
Thanks Jeff.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 4-10-2012 at 09:02 AM
Got Green
This is what I have been working on this week. It is a 7 meter nasa wing.
Susan (npw goddess)kitemaker4 - 16-4-2013 at 07:18 AM
While some of yall were out playing in the desert I was home sewing up a new nasa wing. Below is a picture of the npw9 10 meter in blue and orange.
Susan (npw goddess)bigE123 - 24-4-2013 at 07:17 AM
Latest build and first test flight, it's a NPW21 although as it's got a wider body than standard it could be a NPW 23 ;-)
It's 3.1m2 with a "Z" bridle fitted, grabbed this photo so that I could use it to check bridle tensions etc.
You can see the "Z" bridle better on this one along with the cascade bridle IMK - 24-4-2013 at 03:34 PM
That NPW21 looks awesome. I'm curious about the design of the leading edge (nose?). Have you installed bungee cords in the nose?bigE123 - 24-4-2013 at 11:28 PM
Thanks, with the nose I have used some bridle line, it's knotted to allow me to be able to change the tie length. I have found that the nose/kite
performs better if the nose tie length is increased from standard.
The bungee nose tie idea had crossed my mind before but have not got round to trying it out.bigE123 - 25-4-2013 at 06:48 AM
Thought I'd make this build fairly standard, but just had this nagging in my head...... so I've put a "C" bridle on as well :D
Give a much better wing profile. IMHO
bigE123 - 2-7-2013 at 03:51 AM
Well it's been awhile since the sewing machine has been out and I've been thinking about how wide the NPW21 can go without losing it's character as
being a very stable kite with no nose collapse.
So hot off the machine is my new venture a 6.8m2 NPW 21 higher aspect kite. For this I'm going to bridle it with an extra set of lines to the center
panel as it's over twice the standard width. Fingers crossed, I'll update when it's finished and had a test flight.
herc - 2-7-2013 at 04:07 AM
cool! i hope it will fly !soliver - 2-7-2013 at 09:30 AM
BigE, how do you do your graphics? Is it screen printed on or additional fabric,... I can't quite tell????bigE123 - 2-7-2013 at 11:41 PM
It's applique i.e additional fabric, compared to a straight forward build it's a lot more time consuming, but I think it's worth the effort ;-) 3shot - 3-7-2013 at 04:42 AM
I love that graphic!
Nice Job!! bigE123 - 9-7-2013 at 01:17 AM
Thanx for the comments
Had my first test flight yesterday...... First off it didn't fly, after 1/2 hr of altering some line lengths it lifted to @ 10ft and sat back down.
Lengthened the brake lines and up it went. First impression was it needs the handles held like a foil (power line between fingers), it flies with no
brake input at all!! Which I assume is down to the wider body panel, there's still some tuning to do but now that it flies it proves the concept works
:D
From my initial flight the kite is very stable, nose is well formed, it turns well either on one line pulled, brake input or both together.
To get the kite flying I disconnected a brake line I had on the TE middle of the wing panel, this resulted in some TE flutter on the wing and center
panel which is obviously also due to the fact that it was flying with no brake input.
A bit more tinkering and I'll post up some pics and get a bit of vid. Looks very promising! kitemaker4 - 9-7-2013 at 11:04 AM
I would love to see more pictures and vid of the kite. Keep em coming.
Susan (npw goddess)bigE123 - 9-7-2013 at 01:50 PM
Cheers Susan, had another little test today, wind was a bit lumpy and light 3-6mph but it still flew. I need to get pics so that I can see how the
bridles are tensioned. Wing flutter is sorted just need a steady wind, when it did pick-up it had that good old NPW power so nothing lost :D bigE123 - 10-7-2013 at 06:55 AM
And it flies!!! Big smug grin :D
Just a couple of tweaks needed and I'm sure there's a bridle caught on the picture.
Now just waiting for some new line so that I can get rid of the temporary lines with lots of knots for adjusting.FL630 - 21-7-2013 at 09:48 AM
Hi, first post here.
I'm building my first 3.7m NPW, which is also my first kite build, but am a little stuck on the bridling. A few questions:
-Can anyone post a detailed picture of the way the bridling is attached to the kite? Is it just knotted through a hole or sewed into the join?
-Do you recommend normal bridling or cascade?
-Where can I buy dyneema bridling line in the uk and what strength? I weigh 92kg so that might play a factor.
Thanks
Iankitemaker4 - 21-7-2013 at 04:39 PM
Anything smaller than a 3 meter can have the classic bridles but anything over use the cascade.
What plans are you looking at for the kite and how do they attach the bridle lines.
Susan (npw goddess)bigE123 - 22-7-2013 at 08:21 AM
If it's your first build at that size I'd go for classic bridling, if you give us more information on what model / plans you are going to use then we
may be able to offer more help.
I use climax bridle line Bridle line
It's very good quality, as a rule for cascade I use 35daN for secondaries and 60daN for primaries. For classic I use 60daN all round.
I terms of connecting to the kite, that's really a matter of choice and experience, the three ways I know of are:
1. a line run in the seam, then the bridle line or an attachment point is threaded though the seam and back out (straddling the line in the seam.
2. Sew tags on when you do the seams, the bridle can then attach to the tag.
3. My way is to sew a webbing strip in the seam and hot cut a small hole through it, I then make an attachment point.
bigE123 - 22-7-2013 at 08:25 AM
Also don't forget that the force is spread across the bridle, depending on the NPW you are going to build you will have upwards of 18 bridles per
side, so your 92kg weight is effectively split 36 ways. What I'm trying to say is that the bridle spec will always be lower than your flying lines FL630 - 22-7-2013 at 12:14 PM
I'm building it pretty much to that site but would appreciate any advise to improve or make bridling easier, as this is the bit I'm most concerned
about.
What advantage does cascade have over standard? Just less line?
Thanks
Iankitemaker4 - 22-7-2013 at 02:56 PM
The cascade bridle is 1/3 less bridle lines. It cuts down on weight and drag.
Susan (npw goddess)bigE123 - 23-7-2013 at 12:19 AM
You'll also see on the Teega that it has leech lines in the trailing Edges (TE). These allow you to "trim" the kite once you have built it and flown
a couple of times.LoPan12 - 14-8-2013 at 06:23 PM
So, I'm like, totally new to kite making. And more or less, on a whim, I've decided to try my hand at it. I've decided to go with a Teega (4 m^2) like
the guy up above. My main question is about reinforcement and bridle lines, and possibly flight lines (though probably not)
So...I happen to already have several thousand feet of braided nylon cord of 0.9mm and 1.4mm diameters. The 1.4mm claims 70+ lbs breaking strength, at knot. They're linked to some ebay auctions of similar stuff.
I use it for gear making and decorative knot tying. Is it too weak to use as seam reinforcement line? I would think it should be alright for that. But
how about for a cascaded bridle? In this case, as well as generally, would I want smaller lines for secondary, or just same size for both?
I figured it wouldn't be strong enough for flying lines...
Just thought I'd ask...figured if I could save money (a fair amount from what i've seen) I might as well. Aside from having so much of it I don't know
what to do!LoPan12 - 14-8-2013 at 06:38 PM
Ohh, and I tested the 1.4mm, and with it hitched to two rounded supports, I've supported my 165# on a single strand. But that was a slow, easing on to
it, no bouncing. Obviously, the .9mm snapped...but I don't know how much weight was on itCerebite - 14-8-2013 at 07:52 PM
thread veer but I notice when opening this thread today that it was started FIVE YEARS ago:
Happy Birthday Thread, Happy Birthday to you, ...
now back you your regularly scheduled discussions of the best old school kite form out there, YEA NPWsbigE123 - 15-8-2013 at 03:41 AM
The problem with braided nylon is stretch, it'll stretch with the load, that's why bridle line is more expensive it is a static line (very very low
stretch) and the breaking loads stated are a minimum where as nylon etc is max load after stretch. With no stretch on the bridle lines you will get a
much better profile and control.
As for the seam reinforcement, I use webbing 12mm if I can get it, 15mm is widely available, I roll the seam around the webbing, the seam becomes a
bit wider but it does give a very stable edge. The breaking strain for webbing is @270Kg, obviously there is a slight trade-off in weight, but I much
prefer the stability it gives and it means any holes put through the material for the bridle points goes through the webbing so there is no tension on
just the material.
LoPan12 - 15-8-2013 at 07:04 AM
Thanks for the quick reply! I think I'm going to try a slightly smaller kite first, and work out the kinks.
I did think about the nylon stretch after the fact.
Do you use the webbing on the sail/wing seams as well?
Do you think the 1.4mm line would be okay for seam reinforcements atleast? I'd love to be able to have another use for the slightly ridiculous amount
of cord I have The point of the line in the seam is to bear most of the strain
from bridle lines right? So it wouldn't all be on the sail material? Has anyone tried a hybrid of line-reinforced seams, with inch-ish long
ribbon/webbing located at just bridle points? Or does that result in an uneven look in the sail? Is that what you meant when you said "tags" in your
above post?
Would it be just as much work to sew loops into the seams that protrude from the seams?
I've also already hot-cut all my pieces to allow for a 1cm seam...so I'd have to find 9 or 10 mm webbing/ribbon...
While I'm looking around and comparing, what's a decent price for bridling line? And can I use it for flying lines? I can't seem to find a clear
answer to that..I keep seeing stuff about sleeveing.
Mind you, I've not yet gotten into buggying or anything really. I'm just a guy who likes kites, and my penchant for activities might take me into
buggy or boarding or what have you...
Sorry for all the noob questions, I tried looking through the main forum, but there was alot there. Wish there was a DIY subforum in here...
Thanks for any help ya'll can give me! I'd rather be annoying than blindly use what i happen to have just to see it all go horribly wrong!bigE123 - 16-8-2013 at 03:05 AM
The webbing I use on all seams that have a bridle on
Do I think the 1.4 mm line would be okay?... tough one, I would say at a guess yes.
Yes the line is to spread the load across the seam rather than the material taking the strain.
When I used the term "tags" what I do is burn a hole through the seam and thread a piece of 60 daN bridle through and make a loop with a stopper knot
this gives me a point to connect the lines to.
My first build I did sew loops into the seams for the bridles, do a search on the net for NASA parawing building there are some good techniques on
building.
If you already have cut everything out I'd do loops into the seams.
Bridling line is just that, not for use as flying lines it's not as supple as flying line.
Good luck bigE123 - 28-8-2013 at 03:31 AM
Well this build certainly caused me some problems! Just could not get the kite to fly up to the zenith, there was something holding it back, after
many minor mods, just could not crack it. So with a final throw of the dice removed my extra bridles and went back to basics and rechecked all my
calcs etc. The upshot appears that an NPW does not like it's profile flattening out, it needs that classic "hump". Shortened my A/B bridles and made
a modification to the nose and hey presto a reformed higher aspect NPW 21.
Cheers 3shot, good wind, sunny day and my wife came out with me to get some pics for me. They really help when checking what is going on. bigE123 - 8-11-2013 at 04:16 AM
And finally:
Here is my modified "NASA" NPW21, it's 11.8m and now sports a 5 point bridle keel, reducing the centre panel bridling from 10 to 5 lines, a modified
profile and a depower system.
I initially had some problems with nose collapse on low AoA but that is now sorted out by modifying my de-power system.
Could this be the final mod? The window on this kite is the best of my NPW quiver, it will sit absolutely dead overhead right on the edge of over
flying on it's low AoA. May re-visit the wings by altering the AoA on them as well, as I keep them fixed to stop any wing flutter but for now this
puppy is ready to use again. John Holgate - 8-11-2013 at 05:26 AM