OK i was at the beach, just got on my board but forgot to check my way for kites. The kite sliced through my two right lines, (power line and outside
line) luckily it sliced one foot from my bar above the leader line. Should i braid my lines together or re-sleeve them. I dont need new lines yet they
are still good lines. :puzzled:
If you can splice new eyes that would be best. Sleaving is not as strong. You are going to have to do all your lines.
SKamikuza - 15-8-2009 at 08:48 PM
What the hell kind of lines was the kid using?!? :okitejumper - 15-8-2009 at 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Kamikuza
What the hell kind of lines was the kid using?!? :o
yea!thats what i'd like to know--must have been one mean kite!:oHouston AirHead - 15-8-2009 at 09:04 PM
man it was just a five dollar stupid 7-11 kite. but it was not the cotton string it was the strong super thin dyneema line i belive. It cut through my
lines like a hot knife through butter.
Well i dont know what splice is do you mean weave the two sides together? i cant belive that will not end up slipping apart!@furbowski - 15-8-2009 at 10:07 PM
doesn't take much... I had a couple of the lines on my blade break after a collision with a single-line cheapo on a crappy cotton string.
if you had the old pansh lines, they were really easy to resleeve.
the newer ones are made differently.
you can try using the blood knot, but it is a bit chunky and you'll lose some line:
the braided splice the guy demonstrates in the first post can hold very well, but if you haven't done any cable splices or similar it can be hard to
have confidence in your splice job. as the ropes tighten under use, the fibers of each rope tighten up on each other and spread out the load.
if you want to fly in a hurry, go with the blood knot, braiding / sleeving will both take a little more patience and planning.Big Earl - 15-8-2009 at 10:27 PM
The cheapo cotton lines don't melt, Dyneema and spectra have a very low melting point so the 20 lb. test cotton will win against 600lb high tech
expensive stuff every time.dylanj423 - 15-8-2009 at 10:57 PM
i have never spliced, but resleeving was pretty straightforward, and has held up well on a set of line i used... resleeving kits are around $5, if i
recallKamikuza - 15-8-2009 at 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by Big Earl
The cheapo cotton lines don't melt, Dyneema and spectra have a very low melting point so the 20 lb. test cotton will win against 600lb high tech
expensive stuff every time.
Aah, I see ... acampbell - 16-8-2009 at 08:35 AM
Cheap Dacron will win over dyneema every time
too.
No need to lengthen leaders. Just resleave all 4 to the same length and fly on shorter lines. I have sleeving kits if needed.Bladerunner - 16-8-2009 at 08:54 AM
I have been told it has to do with the melting point + the fact our lines are under tension and the single line is not.
We lose pretty much every time if we tangle. :dunno:furbowski - 16-8-2009 at 09:29 AM
yeah the time i sliced a line on on my 6.5 was not on a very high wind day, the single's line wasn't all that tight, i had actually thought that if i
brushed up against that line it couldn't be a problem.
the cheapo cotton line ended up cutting about 75% through the power line (older flexi "extreme" lines) before the rest of the line broke off, i guess
because the line was too weak to keep holding the kite. the two aspects of the break look quite different.
also i was trying to turn my kite away from the other kite so it was the power line on the outside of the turn that hit, i.e. the less loaded power
line on the kite.
winds were maybe 8-12 mph.
so yeah, not that much force needed for a $5 kite to munch $75 lines!Houston AirHead - 16-8-2009 at 01:09 PM
so ok i wanna go ahead and resleeve my lines bar side , Can i just use the knot method (sleeve over line and tie) or do i have to get them sewn, the
guy advertises you can just tie your lines as long as you have your sleeve on.furbowski - 16-8-2009 at 01:16 PM
yes, you can use the knot method.
i think there is still a small extra advantage in strength with the sewn loops, but tying knots with the sleeve inside takes away most of the problem.
edit: or maybe tying a knot over top of the sleeved line is a better way to say it...
whatever, it will do the job: keep your lines from rubbing directly against each other and increase the radius of the bends in the line and thus
their breaking strength.Houston AirHead - 16-8-2009 at 01:25 PM
ok great thanks , i will give this a go. i think i still am going to order some new lines. 80 bucks for 600 pound Slingshot firewire from www.kiteboarding.com .
Might as well, i can fix these lines and have them as back ups.furbowski - 16-8-2009 at 01:39 PM
you could consider getting Q-power line, works very well by all reports and you don't need to sleeve it.dylanj423 - 16-8-2009 at 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by furbowski
you could consider getting Q-power line, works very well by all reports and you don't need to sleeve it.
i was thinking very similarly.... no sleeving necessary, and it probably wouldnt have been damaged by the cotton string, anywayHouston AirHead - 16-8-2009 at 03:30 PM
meh, i just order the slingshot set and some other repair products
they are only a few hundred miles away from me in chorpus so hopfully ill get my stuff mid week.
