Power Kite Forum - in my opinion i think...................(a guide to kites)

in my opinion i think...................(a guide to kites)

carltb - 19-11-2009 at 08:42 AM

the best freestyle buggy kites is -....................................

the best race buggy kite is -.....................................

the best snow kiting kite is -........................................

the best landboarding kite is -.........................................

the best kite surfing kite is -...............................................

the best static flying and jumping kite is -....................

OK there is no right or wrong answers to these questions but all post must start with...........................

IN MY OPINION I THINK..............................

or IMO FOR SHORT

and if possible please state maker, model, size and wind range flown in.

if I've missed out any category then feel free to add any that you wish

now disscuss...............................

carltb - 19-11-2009 at 08:44 AM

you dont have to have an opinion on every category but all opinions are welcome

carltb - 19-11-2009 at 08:46 AM

IMO the best landboarding kite is the peter lynn synergy 15m flown in 20-25mph winds

ripsessionkites - 19-11-2009 at 09:24 AM

the best race buggy kite is .... (if I had to narrow it down to one) The Peter Lynn Vapor, with prototypes at Nabx proved they were fast, and at Euro Cups, they proved they can run a course race too.
Having said that, a kite is only as good as its driver.

If i could add, put down the Yak GT, Spirit, Xenon ... they were fast too.

the best kite surfing kite is .... F-One Bandit / Waiman Rabbit, i think delta shape is going to be the future and safety of LEIs.

BeamerBob - 19-11-2009 at 10:44 AM

Carl, thanks for starting this. I bet we can now have a thread like this for a long time without anyone getting mad. This is not hard to convey opinions without stepping on toes.

IN MY OPINION I THINK
the best static flying and jumping kite is The Flexi Blade IV but I haven't flown a V yet. It is a work of engineering excellence and a thrill to fly when you are ready for it. The 6.5m is starting to have lift at about 10 mph and hits its stride at about 14-17. By 19 mph its a bit too much for me.

The best kite buggy fixed bridle kite has to be between the Peter Lynn Reactor II and the Flexi Blurr. I would love to have lots of time and consistent winds with a test partner to really get to the nitty gritty of when each kite excels above the other. As a side note, I really love buggying with my PL Phantom. It has a nice balance of power and forgiveness that really lets me enjoy the ride. I am anxious to put in some time with my venom 13 and 15m synergy in the buggy too.

For static flying alone when you don't want to jump I can't leave out the Beamer IV. A few weeks ago, I was having some car repairs done and walked to my local field to fly for an hour or so. I flew my 2m Beamer in lightish winds. I still get a kick out of tracing circles in the sky with a smooth operating kite like the Beamer IV (and III for that matter). I haven't explored the limits of the Beamer yet, but my 2m will fly in 5 mph winds and I'm sure it would work in the buggy up over 30 mph if some HOOJ ones are present.

PHREERIDER - 19-11-2009 at 10:51 AM

IMO ,

LIFE span of rigs ...

maintenance ...

most versatile ...

one kite quiver possibilities ...

might consider these areas as well

but IMO, PL will provide a life time of highly versatile land based or water based performance with the least amount of hassle.

after becoming a more well rounded rider/ flier with all types of kites, land based and water based, the only kite i can use with guaranteed success no matter what I choose to ride, where i'm riding, or conditions is my Peter Lynn venom I 13m. this is all through personal discovery not influenced by instructors /industry or mainstream commerce.

I have flown them all, EVERYDAY, and Peter Lynn delivers a champion all-around survivor.

DenisLaMenace - 19-11-2009 at 10:56 AM

IMO the kite which has the best low end for light winds on the water is the Flysurfer Speed2 SA 19m.

If you don't agree I think you should keep it for yourself :lol:

rocfighter - 19-11-2009 at 12:46 PM

IMO the best buggie is the one I just finninshed building. Plus it's the only one I can afford!:D It's a sweet RAT that if I find my camera I will send in some pics. And if the wind ever blows here again I'll get shots of it in action!

tridude - 19-11-2009 at 12:48 PM

I agree with Buzz.........................IMO, the only thing close around here for light wind performance is the guy from Toronto with a 19m SA2 and my sons 17m SA 1.5...................................

dgkid78 - 19-11-2009 at 01:36 PM

This is an awesome thread but I can't add any info as I am limited with my quiver and experience with other brands. Other than a couple pass arounds.
But this thread will yeild a lot of great info for us all to take in when looking for that next purchase:bigok:

Bladerunner - 19-11-2009 at 05:21 PM

Freestyle buggy - Flexi Blades

Race buggy. Jo Jo with the Vapors about to step up.

Snow kite - is tough. Low wind is the Silver Arrow. Pump and open cell Ozone. Arcs get honourable mention.

Land board and Coyotes - Synergy 15m in 15 to 22kts. ( my favorite all round )

Water - no valuable opinion.

Static - Revolution

Coyotes RULE IMHO :P

flyjump - 19-11-2009 at 05:23 PM

I've had a lot of PL arcs: Guerilla 13, PL Venom 13, v2 16, phantom 12, 16, scorpion 13, 16.

I traded off the rest of them and currently own the 13 and 16 scorps. Out of all of the kites that ive had the one that I miss the most and wish i still owned was the PHANTOM 12M. That kite in 20-30mph was a blast! It was so fast, responsive and most important lifty. It would take you so fast, yet for some reason it had incredible depower. I want another one!

ripsessionkites - 20-11-2009 at 12:55 AM

best kiteboard?

best mountainboard?

best kitebuggy?

... IMO, the xxtreme apexx bf version with Beach Racer Rear / Eurotrax Front, weight bar and about 30kg of extra weight.

tridude - 20-11-2009 at 03:41 AM

IMO..........best all around fixed bridal kite for the bug, board, static flying, and jumping is the 6.5m Flexifoil Blade IV........huge range and applications with the adjustable AOA........................... :lol:

:duh::duh:

WolfWolfee - 20-11-2009 at 08:58 AM

IMHO
Buggy free style- Flexi with new Pl carbon axle( dam have to send axle back)
Buggy kites- Reactor, Scorpion, flown fixed bridles all my life but love my Arc
ski's, snow board- Guerilla, forgiving sweet gentle giant and low wind monster

brplatz - 20-11-2009 at 10:04 AM

IMO

The PL Synergy 15m is the best landboarding kite, since its the only one i have :wee:

Brian

carltb - 24-11-2009 at 05:16 AM

IMO
the best freestyle landboard is the mbs pro 90. of course any landboard can be modified to any riders preferance, but the best off the shelf is the pro 90.

PHREERIDER - 24-11-2009 at 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flyjump
I've had a lot of PL arcs: Guerilla 13, PL Venom 13, v2 16, phantom 12, 16, scorpion 13, 16.

I traded off the rest of them and currently own the 13 and 16 scorps. Out of all of the kites that ive had the one that I miss the most and wish i still owned was the PHANTOM 12M. That kite in 20-30mph was a blast! It was so fast, responsive and most important lifty. It would take you so fast, yet for some reason it had incredible depower. I want another one!

phantom 12m ...ditto

Jolt - 24-11-2009 at 10:29 AM

As far as freestyle buggying goes, those people in australia have done some pretty crazy stuff with the 10m Outlaw, in low winds.

Snow kiting - Ozone Axcess

Jack1988 - 25-11-2009 at 07:07 AM

i cant really say from personal experience as i havent flown many kites but based on what i read and here from the majority i would say.

best FB kites for lift - flexifoil Blade, PL Twister.....pansh ace :D from personal experience

best FB Kite for traction and lift - Ozone access, flexifoil blade

best arcs - peter lynn synergy, scorpion and charger by the sound of it

thats all i can say really as my quivver is only FB atm.

Maven454 - 25-11-2009 at 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack1988
best FB Kite for traction and lift - Ozone access, flexifoil blade

thats all i can say really as my quivver is only FB atm.

The Ozone Access is a depower. Not a fixed bridle.

Bladerunner - 25-11-2009 at 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maven454

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack1988
best FB Kite for traction and lift - Ozone access, flexifoil blade

thats all i can say really as my quivver is only FB atm.

The Ozone Access is a depower. Not a fixed bridle.

Not a kite I think of as lifty either ?

Jack1988 - 25-11-2009 at 05:59 PM

ok sorry, thanks for the heads up.

Im still figuring depower out. :dunno: