Power Kite Forum

Hook Knife

airin - 21-12-2009 at 02:16 PM

I got my new Gerber Hook knife in the mail today and was pleased to know I would now to be equipped help myself or someone else in the event of a nasty kite incident.

Bladerunner enlightened me as to the benefits of having such a safety tool and he showed me two different spots where he stashes a small and then even smaller knife.

But the hook knife is longer than I expected (7 inches) and so I am wondering where the best place to store it would be? I'm thinking somewhere on the kite buggy might be a plan and, no, I can't really see myself strapping it to my calve like the rather Indiana Jones types in the crowd.

Do you have a hook knife or similar rescue knife and, if so, where do you have it so it is close at hand but still doesn't get in the way?

tobytobsen - 21-12-2009 at 02:29 PM

Can you somehow connect it to your harness? My harness came with one build in - never had to use it so far, but tested it and it works very well.

indigo_wolf - 21-12-2009 at 02:37 PM

7 inches?!?!

Do you remember which Gerber it is?

The Gerber H-Knife I am thinking of is under 5" and comes with a tension sheath with a clip.

ATB,
Sam

WELDNGOD - 21-12-2009 at 03:07 PM

SOG flash II assisted opening folder. I got a paracord pulltab on it ,so when I clip it inside the top of mypants pocket ,the tab is right there waiting. In just a flash, it's open ready for use. Quik as a switchblade, but legal, cause you have to touch the blade to open it. I carry this everyday.
If I got my pants on, I got my knife. Unless I just left court or the airport. LOL

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airin - 21-12-2009 at 03:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by indigo_wolf
7 inches?!?!

Do you remember which Gerber it is?

ATB,
Sam


Its this one Sam:

http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-Safety-Knife-22-01480.php

though for some reason it didn't come with a sheath.

indigo_wolf - 21-12-2009 at 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Weldngod
If I got my pants on, I got my knife. Unless I just left court or the airport. LOL


If I have my pants on, I generally have __ knives (legal variety) and enough other gear to bludgeon a medium/large pack of feral dogs into submission.

Really hard on pockets except pants from the Duluth Trading Company because the pockets are made of firehose material.

I am the absolute last person you want to be standing behind at a TSA checkpoint.

Really, really bad case of EDC. I took the whole Boy Scout/preparedness thing way too literally. :rolleyes:

ATB,
Sam

indigo_wolf - 21-12-2009 at 04:21 PM

Quote:

Its this one Sam:

http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-Safety-Knife-22-01480.php

though for some reason it didn't come with a sheath.


Actually give what the stock sheath looks like, it's not a great loss.

Are you looking to attach the hook knife to yourself, a harness or the buggy?

ATB,
Sam

WELDNGOD - 21-12-2009 at 04:22 PM

me too!

Maven454 - 21-12-2009 at 04:49 PM

Yeah, I've always got a variety of interesting gear in my pockets.

airin - 21-12-2009 at 04:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by indigo_wolf

Actually give what the stock sheath looks like, it's not a great loss.

Are you looking to attach the hook knife to yourself, a harness or the buggy?

ATB,
Sam


Yeah, good point about that rather flimsy looking sheath.

I was thinking it would make sense to have it on the bug. I already have a little 'trunk bag' on my PL folder. I could put the knife in there I guess or else fashion some sort of easy to access sheath to attach to the frame of the bug.

At this point I don't wear a harness much yet when I am buggying...still so much about controlling the kite I have to learn before hooking in a strop. However, once I do start wearing a harness I guess it would make the most sense to attach the knife to the harness somehow, eh?

indigo_wolf - 21-12-2009 at 05:11 PM

Here's a possibility:

Here's your knife.



The first think I would consider doing is either braiding or shortening the paracord on the knife. Right now, it's 8"-9" looking for mischief. Braiding it also makes it less floppy.

Finally I would consider adding a stopper ball (marine store) to the end of the cord.


As for a sheath, you might consider a very basic EMT first responder holster. They are available as holster only for $4-$5.

Something like this:


The come in a variety of sizes and one should fit your knife. The one in the picture can be mounted veritical or horizaontally.

In a horizontal mount, pull back the velcro on the sheath. Slide the knife in. Bring the paracord over the sheath, form an upside "U" and then trap both the knife and the paracord with the velcro. At this point, the stopper ball should be draped down.

You should be able to pass you hand across the sheath, trap the stopper ball with your pinky and/or ring finger. Pulling on the stopper ball, this will peel back the velcro that the paracord was trapped under ande extract the knife enough so that your middle and fore finger can grasp the butt/handle of the knife. By the time the knife is fully extracted, your ring and pinky should fall into place.

This might require some practice and adjustment of the cord length, but soon you should be able to do it fast enough to scare the cat.

ATB,
Sam

WELDNGOD - 21-12-2009 at 05:45 PM

or check out how to braid paracord and make your own pull tab for your knife.
http://www.ehow.com/how_5179088_braid-paracord.html
I have custom pull tabs on anything w/ a zipper.
If you don't want to make your own, people sell them on fleabay, just look up" knife lanyards"

Kamikuza - 21-12-2009 at 06:14 PM

All of those are illegal in Japan ... the law changed recently but that's a long and very silly story. Basically, I'd better be VERY careful carrying my Swiss Army knife on my person cos it may or may not be illegal :ticking:

My hook knives ... you might remember the shenanigans I went through to get the Dakine spreader bar pad that has the hook knife pocket 'built-in'? That's the Dakine harness sorted and the OR Session2 comes with one built in ... when I get the Ozone XC harness I guess I have to figure something else out ...

WIllardTheGrey - 21-12-2009 at 07:11 PM

I like a smaller knife like the Mystic hook knife or a Benchmade modal 5. The Mystic knife doesn't come with a sheath but is about half the cost of the Benchmade, however that molded hard sheath is very easy to attach just about anywhere.




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...Really hard on pockets except pants from the Duluth Trading Company because the pockets are made of firehose material. ...

ATB,
Sam


Thanks now I know where to get my next jacket from now that my Carhart is almost worn out after only 3 years, must be all those supermans:embarrased:.
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indigo_wolf - 21-12-2009 at 08:25 PM

Hmmm.... Just wondering why it is that harnesses geared for water seem to include a hook knife with greater frequency than those geared toward land/snow.

Kinda fond of this one:
Gerber Safety Hook Knife




Overall dimensions: 4 3/8” X 2”
Weight: 2.25 Oz.
Color: FG 504 or Black, Black Oxide blade

Small without being too small, and looks like it would be amenable to an inverted, vertical carry.

This is what I thought airin was referring to when she first said a Gerber Hook Knife

Any thought on the land/sea target market skewing?

ATB,
Sam

airin - 21-12-2009 at 09:23 PM

Sam, good ideas for fashioning a sheath with a good grab via the stopper ball. I'll see what I can come up with given your suggestions.

thanks,
Erin

ripsessionkites - 22-12-2009 at 03:00 AM

a large hunting knife on my leg "old school" Cabrinha Style. J/K. :crazy:

most harness include a knife with a pocket, however when sit in the buggy there is no way to reach to for that hook knife from a Dakine Fusion (pocket is on the rear)

i like where the Ocean Rodeo one is where you can reach to the side.

anywhere on the side of the harness is a good place.