My mates looking at getting a first power kite after having a fair few go's on mine and picking it up pretty fast
He's wanting something that'll keep him on his toes and be able to jump with ( i know you dont recommend it but thats that )
I were just wondering if anybody could name me some kites that are good for jumping but not too crazy for someone fairly new to this like a blade for
example
any help would be much apprieciated
cheersfurbowski - 1-1-2010 at 07:55 PM
one kite won't be enough... but he'll start with one and go from there...
folks get hurt by flying in unfamiliar winds or by going with balls instead of brains... may be the case here... :puzzled:
is he close to jumping with your 4m? if so then look at blade, crossfire, twister, bego, & ace.
if he is not close to jumping with your 4m and your winds, then you'll need to change up a size, same kites as above.
some of those kites work best in smooth winds -- ace for example. others are better in gustier winds -- twister for example. The size & general
nature of kite (lifty vs. traction) is of more importance than the brand, so a 6m ace will over power a blade 4.9.Alexwilson - 1-1-2010 at 08:03 PM
well i did suggest to get a beamer at first ( probably a larger size though like you say ) but he seemed to be able to handle mine a little too
easily. Hes definatly wanting something with a little more lift,
would a blade not be too much? from what ive read they seem to be considered as a kite for the more advanced flyer?DAKITEZ - 1-1-2010 at 08:18 PM
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( i know you dont recommend it but thats that )
you said it right there brotherfurbowski - 1-1-2010 at 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Alexwilson
( i know you dont recommend it but thats that )
you said it right there brother
there's a few photos of broken legs on this forum!
edit... If I were you, I'd tell him to do his own posting, you don't want to share responsibility for your friend's unwise purchases... just my 2
cents...Alexwilson - 1-1-2010 at 08:39 PM
Alright then, ill change the approach
...say they put in a few more hours on my beamer and get fully to grips with it, what kites can you recommend as good to progress on to jumping? more
of a second kite than a firstBladerunner - 2-1-2010 at 08:08 AM
Go 50 - 50 on the kite with that friend. Then it will be yours when he breaks his neck !
You may be looking for a Twister II?acampbell - 2-1-2010 at 09:09 AM
Once he is able to manage your Beamer in a variety of wind conditions, consider the Twister II for sure. Much smoother than the Blade. Very stable
and easy yet has some good lift.Alexwilson - 2-1-2010 at 02:53 PM
Cheers acampbell
One last question.... are the HQ crossfires anygood?
i was looking at getting myself one of them as there abit cheaper than the twisterfurbowski - 2-1-2010 at 03:35 PM
I like my old 3.2... nice angry kite when it gets powered up! built tough as well... But it definitely fits in the small fast lifty "widowmaker"
category, will spank me in a split second when flown in 20+ winds. It and the blade came with me to canada for a couple months, I left everything
else in HK, except for a couple little foils for kids.
Angus will have better info on the CF II's... They have adjustable bridles like the blade, which is a real plus, but I seem to remember it doesn't
quite work the same... Stand by for Angus mate, he'll tell ya straight.
And if ya don't mind me sayin'... speaking for yourself is much better...
Asking for something potentially lethal for a newbie friend just gets everybody worried.
When people get hurt it can make the sport look really bad, we all want to avoid that.
edit... twisters are really nice tho... be careful thinking with your wallet...acampbell - 2-1-2010 at 06:23 PM
Hi Alex. Thanks Furbs
Crossfire II is a contender for sure with a couple of asterisks hanging over its head. I did not mention it before because it commands a bit more
attention and skill than others and is pricier. Very versatile kite with the ground adjustable bridle that includes a low-lift "buggy setting",
however with that setting you really have to stay on the brakes at the right time to keep it from overflying the window, luffing and snapping shut
line a mousetrap. That is not so much a flaw but a characteristic that you have to be aware of like some race kites. In the default high lift
setting the kite is pretty stable but others have reported stability and tip-tuck issues that I really have not seen so much. Maybe because I know it
as a snatchy kite that you have to stay on top of. It is lifty and grunty but still not as violent as a Blade in gusty wind, but a little more
aggressive than a Twister. Others may take issue with this and it has been a while since I have flown them back-to-back, so lets hear what others
say.furbowski - 2-1-2010 at 07:58 PM
yeah I like my crossfire I but the twister has a fantastic reputation for stability, the one PL fixed bridle I've flown was a PL hornet and it was
perfect as a beginner kite, if the twister does as good a job (I've not flown it so no direct feedback from me) at being a stable jumper as the hornet
is as a super easy beginner kite, well... It's a strong contender.
I know the 4.1 (twister) was too much for a beginner this time last year in gusty inland texas winds, and he was 20 stone! I reckon this year he'd be
right on top of the thing.
with better info on your winds / body weight you'll get more specific recommendations.
a lot of stability / tip-tuck depends on the skill of the flyer, many folks starting out are not too good at keeping kites just inside the edges of
the wind window, after a few more hours the bad behavior disappears as the skills start to come on line...g-force junkie - 9-1-2010 at 07:38 PM
Check out the Ozone kites, super safe, easy to fly,start with a 6 meter Access in light winds and work up to a 8 and then a 10, there not cheap but
they are some of the most durable and best flying kites out there.tom kite - 9-1-2010 at 09:14 PM
twister would be ok--stay away from the blade for awhile--they can snatch you up QUICKLYBigMikesKites - 9-1-2010 at 09:45 PM
I've flown both the Twister II and Crossfire II and I would go with the Twister long before the Crossfire. No matter what setting I put the crossfire
on, the thing just gave me fits. I've flown alot of kites and that was the only one I was frustrated with. Never a problem with a Twister II. Or
a Twister I for that matter.