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Ozone Access XC Harness

cjules - 7-1-2010 at 11:36 PM

Just wondering why this harness has a neat little tag inside that says not designed for jumping? I would guess it's because its named after the kite, and the Access isn't very lifty? It does sit a little low on the waist but I can't see this being a huge deal when going for a jump. It's not going to explode right?

This site has a few pics to get an idea...

http://www.tahoemountainsports.com/product/ozone-xc-harness-...

Kamikuza - 8-1-2010 at 12:00 AM

"One size fits all" ... we shall see :lol:

shaggs2riches - 8-1-2010 at 06:06 AM

I'd assume that it must be a liability issue. I'm glad I got mine, it fits quite nicely ove layers of winter clothes and still allows movement. Really light when compared to other harnesses though, but I doubt it will fall apart.

acampbell - 8-1-2010 at 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by shaggs2riches
I'd assume that it must be a liability issue. I'm glad I got mine, it fits quite nicely ove layers of winter clothes and still allows movement. Really light when compared to other harnesses though, but I doubt it will fall apart.


Nailed it.

One size fits all, up to about 54" waist, last time I took a field d measurement (of the harness, not me). Kiters of average build will not be able to cinch the leg straps tight over summer beach clothes, but this has not yet been reported as a problem, certainly not in the buggy.

WELDNGOD - 8-1-2010 at 07:22 AM

I am getting one of these before spring.Looks like what I need. I'm sure that warning is a"COA"tag , to protect the co. from liability. But I don't jump, so it is fine w/ me.

rdavis - 8-1-2010 at 07:46 AM

I have one of these and in my opinion, you wouldn't want to jump with it, even if that tag wasn't there. It's pretty snug around your junk and I think would be a bit uncomfortable when hanging from a kite. I use mine for buggying, and I know those little upward tugs as i'm making my way to the buggy are not comfy. Other than that, it's an awesome harness, especially for the buggy. If I decide to do any jumping, I switch to my Dakine Fusion.

indigo_wolf - 8-1-2010 at 10:39 AM

According to an earlier post by Angus, there's more room for your junk in 2010 due to new placement of the leg straps.

"Leg straps attached at a more ergonomic angle. Distributes vertical loads between the attachment point and leg padding without squashing the family jewels."

That said, I would still love it if they dumped the plastic for stainless double D rings.

There are a gazillion photos of the Ozone Frenzy and Manta being jumped, but no Ozone harness suitable for them without the caveat? Oh pullleeeease.

There is definitely a fear of liability thing in play, because if you look at it, you would have to have multiple catastrophic buckle failures, even though just one would probably wake up the sphincter right quick.

If you want a giggle, translate the safety warnings from French on the Ozone FB and Turbo bar.

ATB,
Sam

acampbell - 8-1-2010 at 11:31 AM

And FWIW, for 2010 they have re rigged the webbing straps such that they have cut the strain on the buckles by 50%, by using mechanical advantage.

ragden - 8-1-2010 at 11:41 AM

I was jumping all over the place last weekend while wearing mine. No problem. Probably just a liability issue. *shrug*

powerkiter82 - 8-2-2010 at 09:44 AM

It is strictly a liability issue, my ozone harness says that it is not for rock climbing as well as not for jumping. It is the same reason certain helmets have stickers that say not to be used for a ceratin activity.

erratic winds - 8-2-2010 at 09:55 AM

Yup, I'm sure it's just standard CoverYourAss lawyerstuff. I'm freaking loving this harness. TOTALLY not one size fits all, it's for the big boys. If you are less than a 34" waist this thing isn't for you. I'm 6'1" 205lbs 36" waist and I have to cinch leg straps fully...

Scudley - 8-2-2010 at 10:56 AM

Is this like the old moving company ad that says "Nobodyelse's junk in your valuable possessions."
S

BigMikesKites - 8-2-2010 at 11:06 AM

'One size fits all'

I'm probably on the real big side of things and this does fit me, no problem.

You skinny folks could wear it with winter clothes on. i did good with jeans. LOL

indigo_wolf - 8-2-2010 at 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by powerkiter82
It is strictly a liability issue, my ozone harness says that it is not for rock climbing as well as not for jumping. It is the same reason certain helmets have stickers that say not to be used for a ceratin activity.


FWIW:
Helmets receiving different certifications isn't a completely a liability/cya thing. It has more to do with the amount of money, time, facilities, etc. that go into testing a helmet.

Different activities have different safety requirements that can be met within a certain price point, and there's a wide variety of testing suites that are supposed to cover the stresses/situations that are expected to be encountered in a given activity or range of activities.

Build a helmet for Sport X and a testing suite is developed for it. It may or may not be suitable for Sport Y, but unless it has been tested for Sport Y, it will receive the certs for whatever activity it was tested for.

Some of the certifications are totally misleading..... On a product info chart, you might see a string of certifications.... some are safety test certifications, others are just Quality Assurance certifications. All the latter really covers is that the helmet was constructed of the materials it was said to be constructed of and the assembly was not done by a bunch of trained monkeys (or kittens) in a dimly lit room.

The thouroughness of safety certifications varies from country to country. In some comparisons, the US lags behind and in some it does better. In a lot of cases, there seems to be some links between how popular a sport is in a given country and how vocal the participants are about safety concerns and suitability of the gear for their activity.

The inception and background info on the Snell Foundation which does testing for auto/motorcyle and a couple of other helmets types makes for interesting reading.

ATB,
Sam

powerkiter82 - 8-2-2010 at 06:52 PM

I am very familiar with the different testing that helmets and other gear goes through, I used to race supermoto and flattrack motorcycles. I was making a reference to the warning labels on helmets. For example, a bicycle or skateboard helmet will say, not approved for motocycle use. That is more of a liabilty/CYA warning than it is to show the amount of testing that a helmet went through. There are other labels that show the level of testing that a helmet goes through. The warning labels are there for a reason. Testing facilities would not even waste the time to test a bicycle helmet for motorcycle use due largley in part to the construction of the helmet. The helmet is made with cheaper and thinner materials therefore it could not withstand the impact of a crash at high speeds, that is also why a bicycle helmet is a lot cheaper than a motorcycle helmet. A helmet is constructed based on a lot of parameters for that paticular application, then it is tested for that paticular activity.

heliboy50 - 8-2-2010 at 07:13 PM

Mine is sitting at home in a box waiting for me- I'm stuck at work. BTW, thanks Angus.:thumbup:

PBKiteboarding - 11-2-2010 at 07:21 AM

I get my Students on the Ozone Harness all the time.
Easy to have one harness that fits everyone.

Customers are very happy with it for Snowkiting
Best seller by far.

Ozone Access XC harness

powerkiter82 - 11-2-2010 at 12:37 PM

It does fit most, I have a size 40 waist and can put it on over jeans, long underwear, and even tuck the bottom of my jacket in the harness and still be able to cinch the straps down, even though my harness has the spreader bar and pad which takes up more room than the model with just the d ring attachment. It is an awesome harness. I would definitely recommend it to anyone.