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NasaWing praised by PL himself for lightwind!

herc - 25-3-2010 at 03:04 PM

http://www.peterlynnkites.com/news/0801news.htm

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It's true that kites are not equal- some are better in the light than others. The very best light wind fliers are NASA style single skin frameless kites- they fly in winds you can barely feel. When Chris Brent and I tested NASA's against Arcs using identical KiteCats in 2005, we found not only that the NASA's allowed kitesailing in much lighter winds, but that the performance crossover was at much higher wind speed than we expected. NASA's have L/D's of around 3, Arcs >5, but even when the wind was more than enough to allow the Arc to be parked solidly in a corner (+/-15km/hr), a NASA of similar size would still beat it around an upwind/downwind course. There is hope!


you can actually go upwind with a nasawing ?!? i want a video ! i want a nasawing! in ... hmmm... 19 sqm ! i will have big days in 4 knots :shocked2: :wee:

action jackson - 25-3-2010 at 03:21 PM

I wonder who gave him the ideal?;) ..........aj

Bladerunner - 25-3-2010 at 03:30 PM

I think Peter needs a go on a Speed Silver Arrow . Could be a wake up call even for him ? :Ange09:
It's too bad Flysurfer doesn't send rep's to NABX !

Coolbreeze was out riding in so little wind that the flags were not lifting with the 11.? Vapor on snow the other weekend. I SWEAR the wind was between 3 and zero and he just kept going through the zeros ! :borg:

herc - 25-3-2010 at 03:41 PM

yeah! today, i was out with the peter lynn twister II 7.7 sqm in 2-4 knots , powerkiting on the beach. this beast has unbelievable power! scudding all over the beach, even some small jumps were possible.

i will upload a video next week. my internet connection in my hometown is so slow, that the upload always stops with some errors.

vapor or some other race kite is definitely on my wish-list. but also a cheap but HUGE nasawing for abusing and scudding and fun on the beach. next week also my steel bottom ski will arrive. hope they work on sand (and grass?).

action jackson - 25-3-2010 at 04:03 PM

I had the 19m syn in 15-28mph winds today! Let just say the jumps were hooj!.............aj

BeamerBob - 25-3-2010 at 04:27 PM

AJ you kill me taking the 19 out in winds that my 15 would make me nervous. I'm gonna have to try out one of these nasa wings.

kitemaker4 - 25-3-2010 at 05:12 PM

Yes you can go upwind with a nasa wing. I do it all the time.

Susan (npw goddess)

rocfighter - 25-3-2010 at 06:23 PM

Yeah but your the NPW Goddess, Does that really coount that you can do it? :bigok:

Drewculous - 25-3-2010 at 06:38 PM

i saw this and was wondering when susan and pl teamed up?

kitemaker4 - 25-3-2010 at 08:01 PM

Unless you know more than I do I have not teamed up with anyone.

Susan (npw goddess)

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Originally posted by Drewculous
i saw this and was wondering when susan and pl teamed up?

herc - 26-3-2010 at 02:52 AM

nice review of the Nasawing NPW9 ahead:

http://www.drevill.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/kitefreeks/reviews/n...

upwind possible, but some sidepull. still want a video that proves upwind.

Drewculous - 26-3-2010 at 06:57 AM

well herc... if you want a 19m npw... susan is the one to talk to :eekdrull:

wee bit powerful kite there :lol:

PHREERIDER - 26-3-2010 at 07:11 AM

one of the first foils i owned . as a fundamental element of four line flying it is indispensable, and indestructible.

a mountain of wind window, foil behavior, fine hand control and balance to be had by mastering this rig!

Bladerunner - 26-3-2010 at 04:40 PM

Susan be sure and ask me to film you going up wind , low wind etc. for folks.

kitemaker4 - 26-3-2010 at 05:32 PM

I will be sure that you get some footage so we can prove that a nasa wing can go upwind.

Susan (npw goddess)

herc - 27-3-2010 at 01:44 AM

thanks! especially the interesting would be ultra-low-wind, as this is the area where the nasawing is probably unbeatable, according to mr. lynn. (well maybe flysurfers are the best thing there, but they are out of the game , because they are simply to heavy ... ... (price-tag wise ;-) )

Bladerunner - 27-3-2010 at 06:41 AM

I would like to see if the Nasa wing can outperform the likes of the new Vapor ?

I know I saw AJ flying some HOOJ NPW in almost no wind last year but I have seen a vapor flown by Coolbreeze in pretty much no wind ?

action jackson - 27-3-2010 at 06:51 AM

The 15m that i was flying, is the same kite peter used in the kitecat...........aj

herc - 27-3-2010 at 12:17 PM

probably the vapor is better. but: would you risk anything with your brandnew expensive vapor? i would rather go out on the sea with a 19 sqm nasawing and get beaten by minimal gusts, than risking to sink a vapor.

vapor would be fantastic though for the next snowkite session. i also heard that the vapor is the definite low wind kite. better than flysurfers of course, because of the better (no reflex) profile and optimized overall desing.

still would be interested in a nasawing hybrid with a self-inflating leading edge. just to stabilize it and reduce nose collapses. (and to make it swim ;-) )

the naiboo morphine has something similiar: just some cells that self-inflate so that it swims. but main stability comes from the aluminium spares leading edge.