Originally posted by indigo_wolf
but there is no try... just do.
You're so right ,worst thing they could do is laugh and hang up ,thanx Samindigo_wolf - 23-6-2010 at 04:45 PM
Always and ever, welcome, Good luck!
Who knows.... you might become a one-man USO for the folks stationed out here.
Post back and let us know how you get on.
ATB,
SamWELDNGOD - 1-7-2010 at 07:07 AM
I HATE VIRGINIA!!!!!!!
I got an answer today......
NO!!!!!!
WHY IS THAT EVERY PIECE OF OPEN LAND BELONGS TO THE GODDAM ENVIRO,BIRD SUCKIN, BEETLE LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!
AAARRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While your request to visit Craney Island for traction kiting and
kitebuggying cannot be accommodated by our staff, we are welcoming requests
for authorized visitation - to include educational activities arranged by
public or private academic institutions, environmental and natural resource
organizations, birdwatching clubs and other groups established to study
nature.
Feel free to contact me if you have any additional questions.
Best,
Brittany Brown
Public Affairs Specialist
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Norfolk District
Office: (757) 201-7258
Cell: (757) 510-5767
Fax: (757) 201-7133
Brittany.A.Brown@usace.army.mil
That's probably true of a lot of shoreline property. However, in this case..... there is more irony in the following, than can be bought with the
contents of Fort Knox:
In modern times, Craney Island is an industrial area and is used as a location for placement of dredged materials. It is operated by the
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. A major fueling depot for the United States Navy is located adjacent. The Norfolk District of the Corps staff
has received recognition for the creation, protection, and preservation of a critical habitat for birds such as the piping plover, least terns, brown
pelicans, osprey, and other threatened or endangered species that use the island as a large nesting ground. Audubon Society members have turned the
island into a favorite spot for bird watching.
Because a Navy fueling depot and storage facility for dredged items wouldn't disturb the birds' natural habitat. OK.... makes perfect sense... I'm on
board now. :puzzled: :puzzled:
Inland, a lot of open land seem to go to shopping centers, strip malls, golf course, and of course soccer/baseball fields.
Non-designated public recreational lands seems to be at a serious deficit in the US.... The UK and Canada seem to do better in that respect.
ATB,
SamWELDNGOD - 1-7-2010 at 08:44 AM
Time for a lawsuit to change that! I pay taxes too and I want shared use of public land! Those damn birds don't pay taxes, and if they are so dammed
endangered, why is ALL the open land theirs? WTF!!!!!!!!:flaming:
IF THERE IS ANYONE OUT THERE THINKING OF RELOCATING TO VIRGINIA, DON'T, IT SUX.silvereaglekiter - 1-7-2010 at 02:27 PM
we need to find an adventurous Lawyer to get hooked on Kiting so He/She will be as passionate about this stuff as we are.WELDNGOD - 2-7-2010 at 04:23 PM
You ought to see how BIG this place is. I bet it is 2 miles long and a mile wide, maybe bigger. There is no earthly reason why a organized group
couldn't have a little piece at the entrance area. Not way out in the middle or end, where it may "bother" the birds, but nearer to the shore where
the entrance is . Where the birds are alot less likely to gather anyway.
Oh,well ixnay on the craney island idea
What else did I expect from the ARMY CORPS OF IDIOTS.pigryder - 6-7-2010 at 02:51 PM
Dude I F'n hate virginia, I on board with you lad - 6-7-2010 at 03:29 PM
Dudes, I do a little work for the Corps...:duh:
They are divided into broad regional offices, but can still be beholden to local, state and federal enviro/wildlife regulatory agencies. You might
find there's quite a bureaucratic gauntlet ahead of you.
One "Corpseman" told me it's a regional division that's helping to hold up dredging for the oil spill sand barriers - (supposedly, some of the stuff
in the dredging may be "worse" than the oil). But he pointed out that that wasn't the Corps HE works for. According to Jindal, there are some 20
regulating agencies down there, each one with veto power. No wonder nothing got started soon enough.
