Hello everyone i am looking to buy a new kite to landboard with because here in Nj we don't have a lot of wind so heavy winds don't always come my
way. The reason i am looking to buy a pansh is because they are affordable.I know most of you will say save your money and buy a nice kite but im 14 i
dont have a job so thats impossible. i have heard alot about pansh saying they are dangerous and hard to use i weigh 125 but im strong and im not bad
but not as good as most of the people on here. I was thinking about buying a 5m or smaller but im not sure soo i would like all of your opinions
please help me.
~sencerely CJKamikuza - 3-8-2010 at 05:34 PM
It's not a matter of strength but skill ... if you exercise caution, you could make do with a 5m kite while learning but - what do you want it for?Bladerunner - 3-8-2010 at 05:41 PM
It is tough being on a tight budget. It sounds like you understand your choices. l
On your budget you can't rule pansh out. Without a doubt your best option is to wait it out and watch the for sale sections. You just missed a good
deal on a 2m + 5m Pansh for $125 from Fletcht.
Taking your time is a Hooj requirement in this sport. From buying a kite to chosing the right conditions.
If you do go the Pansh route I think you are wanting the 5m ace. Isn't it more than $200? It is an O.K. low budget kite that will get you going on
your snowboard. + it is just big enough to jump with. My biggest warning is that I would think twice about jumping with the lines + handles that come
with pansh. They look the job but I'm not sure I would bet my life on them.
Pansh don't come with instructions for set up and sometimes are imperfect. They can be frustrating if you don't know what you are doing and are on
your own. ( or they can be fine ) If you buy a used kite RTF you can be assured it will fly right out of the bag.
this kite is ready to fly with lines and handlesNJLandboarder - 3-8-2010 at 06:09 PM
Okay this is good info I likwhat I'm hearing keep it up and would my hq beamer lines be better for jumping???RonH - 3-8-2010 at 06:43 PM
So you can fly already...
A 4 - 5 meter is a good step up from you 2.
My first kite (that I owned and not just borrowed) was a used Ozone Riot. I used it for 2 seasons and sold it for about the same amount. It's still
flying today!
Quality kites keep going just like the energizer bunny.
Pansh kites have almost no resale value and will not keep going without some knowledge of how to fix bridle lines as they stretch.
Wait for a decent used kite to pop up - Post in the wanted section and read the for sale section too.
I have seen someone selling kite "A" in the for sale section and someone wanting kite "A" in the wanted section and they don't seem to connect often.
Good luck!
RonWELDNGOD - 3-8-2010 at 06:44 PM
Hi CJ, I fly some pansh kites and I got no probs w/ the kites themselves. So far all of mine have been worth the money. But I use my own custom set
of handles or my Flexifoil handles. I still have 2 sets of the old fat rope-like lines that pansh used to come with. Now they have way better lines. I
have to give Pansh credit ,they have endured ALOT of criticism and they have changed ALOT because of it.
Your Beamer lines are probably not strong enough for jumping so go with the pansh lines until you can get some extreme lines. Not sure about the
handles now ,the old ones sucked outloud. Here is a link to the Pansh flyer forum ,you could get some answers here http://www.panshfans.com/index.php?sid=dece4f3f7ae987d94b940...stetson05 - 3-8-2010 at 07:03 PM
I have a couple of Pansh kites but I would warn against the Ace. At least mine was too unstable for me which caused more headaches than it was worth.
Ace is powerful and lifty but I like more stability. I am more fond of the blaze and legend and my Blaze was my go to kite until I got used to my
Neo.art_lessing - 4-8-2010 at 03:15 AM
I really like the legend..my 2m has seen a ton of miles......I lost my 5.5 legend and I really miss it..the thing was totally predictable,,,,,,,,,,,if
I were starting out I would recommend the 4.5 legend for medium winds...10-15....the legends have decent lift too for the cheapo price......also
invest in a set of flexi lines they are like 75 bucks but its worth itJohn Holgate - 4-8-2010 at 05:51 AM
Whenever someone says Pansh Ace and 'jumping' this is what springs to mind: OUCH!Bladerunner - 4-8-2010 at 06:41 AM
Interesting that people are suggesting the Legend and Blaze.
I was very pleased with how my 5m Ace flies. ( mine was a promo one so they may have made sure they got it right ? )Good predictable lift even if it
does tend to collapse. My Blaze is a slug that would not entertain a teen's desire to jump ?
This speaks to Panshes inconsistant nature ?
Ron H says it best, once again !Bladerunner - 4-8-2010 at 06:42 AM
Interesting that people are suggesting the Legend and Blaze.
I was very pleased with how my 5m Ace flies. ( mine was a promo one so they may have made sure they got it right ? )Good predictable lift even if it
does tend to collapse. My Blaze is a slug that would not entertain a teen's desire to jump ?
This speaks to Panshes inconsistant nature ?
Ron H says it best, once again !bigkid - 4-8-2010 at 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by John Holgate
Whenever someone says Pansh Ace and 'jumping' this is what springs to mind: OUCH!
Thanks John for that little shot of reality. To bad they didn't show the rest of his jump, the part were he goes to the hospital with 14 broken ribs,
a collapsed lung and nerve damage in his shoulder, no, wait, that was how my jump ended. Sorry lost my head. Don't buy a pansh, to much of a crap
shoot to get one that you won't need to fix, alter,repair, rebuild in order to fly. IMHONJLandboarder - 4-8-2010 at 04:00 PM
I really this dicussion and all the helpful info and I think we can all say the ace is definatly a no and some people say legendBladerunner - 4-8-2010 at 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by NJLandboarder
I really this dicussion and all the helpful info and I think we can all say the ace is definatly a no and some people say legend
I own a couple of Pansh kites and have flown a few more. The ONLY one I have liked was my 5m ace ? As I mentioned I think that they got this one
right.
The Ace is the Pansh that is most aggressive and lifty. The others will leave a teen ager wanting for more IMHO. It seems like the design they ripped
off was the 4.9 Blade and so the 5m fits the design well.
If you are getting anything from this thread I would hope that it is to avoid Pansh. Buy a Quality used kite if you can wait it out.
I think that video speaks more to how a small kite when jumping can be a hazard. With a larger / better kite and some better skills that fellow would
have been able to float that gust out.Maven454 - 4-8-2010 at 04:15 PM
Personally, I was unimpressed by the Legend I had. If at all possible, I'd try to find something for sale on here. It's likely to be a much better
kite for the money.WELDNGOD - 4-8-2010 at 04:26 PM
2.0m ACE in red, the MOST dangerous kite I own. I own 6 pansh kites, they might not be of Flexi, Ozone ,etc. quality but good enough for the cash.
All flew out of the bag,and still fly. My 5.0m Sprint is the hardest puller I got. The ACEs are for high wind buggyin hotwired. And the legends are
for my friends to fly. (If they crash it and kill it , no great loss)I fly em regularly and so far so good. That is not to say they will have
longevity, but alot of that is care of the kite and what you do w/ it. Buggy jumping probably puts more strain on ANY kite and if you keep doin it at
some point your bound for failure. I think you should save your dough though and let the good folks on this forum hook ya up.
Somebody has a good buy to pass on. With all the ARCUMCIZING goin on here. Not me though, I'm the fixed bridle freak of the lot. On handles at that!
No pink skirt , but a hell of a death gripindigo_wolf - 4-8-2010 at 04:32 PM
Really, really think some important points are being missed here.
Need to run for a train soon.
Back after fighting the cats for dinner.
ATB,
SamHouston AirHead - 4-8-2010 at 04:32 PM
bottom line you really canTt go wrong with pansh.
Yes you should buy one, i have owned a legend ace and sprint. all kites are awesome.
weldngod you are right, the sprint is a super strong kite. but is meant to be moving
wow i meant to say cantBladerunner - 4-8-2010 at 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Houston AirHead
bottom line you really can go wrong with pansh.
WELDNGOD - 4-8-2010 at 05:01 PM
H.A. , I'm always movin dude. Buggy or ATB,but I can still static fly a Sprint like crazy, I'm particularly fond of my 3.3m.Houston AirHead - 4-8-2010 at 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Bladerunner
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Originally posted by Houston AirHead
bottom line you really can go wrong with pansh.
sory i otally meant to type cant, not can. my key board has many spillsindigo_wolf - 4-8-2010 at 10:16 PM
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Hello everyone i am looking to buy a new kite to landboard with because here in Nj we don't have a lot of wind so heavy winds don't always come my
way. The reason i am looking to buy a pansh is because they are affordable.I know most of you will say save your money and buy a nice kite buti'm 14 i dont have a job so thats impossible. i have heard alot about pansh saying they are dangerous and hard to use i weigh 125 but im strong and im not bad but not as good as most of the people on here. I was thinking about buying a 5m or
smaller but im not sure soo i would like all of your opinions please help me.
As the OP went from looking at a landboard to fly with his 2M beamer, to showing interest in a 12 meter Ace, a Mac Bego 600, and 5M or smaller Pansh
and back to the landboard, I think there are a lot of ways that thing could go way wrong that has nothing to do with whether you are a fan of Pansh or
not.
He's flying inland, somewhere in New Jersey which in a lot of cases would mean dicey tree lines which would provide a surprise burst of power once the
kite clears them or school fields where the winds are going to be screwed up by the main and annex buildings.
When the conversation switched from landboarding to jumping, CJ never indicated whether there was going to be adult supervision (as it doesn't sound
like their are other fliers in the area) or whether he already had pads/helmet which would chew into his budget.
My problem with assuming that the latter would be readily at hand is that someone recently posted the attached picture on SD recently:
Tarmac + No Helmet or Pads = :sniff:
OK.... I officially sound old now..... stories of "walking 10 miles to school... in the snow... uphill... both ways" will follow shortly. :embarrased:
ATB,
Sam
thanson2001ok - 4-8-2010 at 10:55 PM
Hey, somebody needs to pick this guy up and teach him how to fly. Safely.
CJ, where in NJ are you?
Guys, anyone near by?indigo_wolf - 5-8-2010 at 12:18 AM
Only people I can think of that are even remotely close depending on where in NJ are:
well if anybody here in new jersey would like to teach me or even Pa that would be awesome and my dads friend who he blokarts with is friends with the
head of the buggyclub
also i own a helmet and pads because i used to skateboard and bmx now i just snowboard and surf and kiteXdisasterXdrewX - 5-8-2010 at 11:16 PM
I know im a little late here but i would have to say that a Pansch would be GREAT to go with.
I got a great deal on the 5m Legend and 6m Ace and they are both wonderful kites.
I started with a 2m and then went to the 5m to learn all the basics.
I couldnt get any jumps but it would probably be good enough to pull you. But i weigh 170 so Im sure it would be the perfect kite for you.furbowski - 5-8-2010 at 11:33 PM
I have 5 pansh... 2 legends and 3 aces.
The legends, well, one was good (2m) but the 3m had stretched bridles within hours. It's now a willing victim for a burnt kite offering to the wind
gods (not sure they'll accept the offering though.... I'm sure a big blade would assure good onshores for months!)
The aces have all treated me well. Their main problem is that they need smooth winds.
The handles suck, but some bike handlebar tape made them comfy enough to fly with. And I replaced all the lines on the handles with some non-stretchy
climbers accessory cord (4mm for brakes, 6mm for powers) overkill yes but it was having one of the OEM handle power line leaders break on me during a
jump that had me doing the fix.
If you are looking for value AND you are a DIY sort, then perhaps they are worth considering. But with a little patience, you can get quality used
kites for the price of a new pansh, and that will be much better imho. To repharase bladerunner, impatience and kites don't mix well -- trips to
A&E tend to result.
yep, late to the thread... best of luck to ya tho.Maven454 - 6-8-2010 at 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by XdisasterXdrewX
I know im a little late here but i would have to say that a Pansch would be GREAT to go with.
I got a great deal on the 5m Legend and 6m Ace and they are both wonderful kites.
I started with a 2m and then went to the 5m to learn all the basics.
I couldnt get any jumps but it would probably be good enough to pull you. But i weigh 170 so Im sure it would be the perfect kite for you.
To be fair, you got a better deal on those than he would, since he be buying them new. Plus we already knew that the ones you bought from me flew
acceptably. He'd be rolling the dice buying them directly from Pansh.indigo_wolf - 6-8-2010 at 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by NJLandboarder
well if anybody here in new jersey would like to teach me or even Pa that would be awesome and my dads friend who he blokarts with is friends with the
head of the buggyclub
Are you close to any of the three people in my last post?
If not, are you anywhere near Rt 4/Rt 17? I believe there are some folks flying at Overpeck.
If you could narrow down where in NJ you are to at least which county you are in, it will be easier to find someone near you.
ATB,
SamNJLandboarder - 6-8-2010 at 04:34 PM
i talked to my mom and she a said toms river is 1hr ad 45 min away not very likely they would drive me there
now i am going to be spending a weekend in Baltimore Maryland with my mom and dad somtime this month and if there is anybody there in the inner harbor
or close who would like to help me that would be great
if somone does wants to help me could they help teach my dad to fly im trying to get him to kite buggy instead of blokart because we could do it
together i tried to teach him to fly my beamer on the beach but the winds were extremely strong and i told him that it would not be a good day to
teach him and he got mad and made me teach him..... within ten minutes my kite was in the ocean and i was pissed i made him clean it himself and dry
it. i did see improvement in his flying but the only way i can get him to buggy with me is if he can learn to fly it and be confident
thank you for all your help i have learned much more then i though i could about what kite to get and i have been looking around at different kites
trying decide which one will be my second power kite soo far i looked at the pansh legand 5.5 and the blaze 5 and 6 also a the mac bego 600 for sale
on here and the PL rebble 6.5 for sale on hereBladerunner - 6-8-2010 at 04:44 PM
If a local kid doesn't jump on it there may be a 5m Beamer available . You should contact Airin on here and ask her to get in line !Maven454 - 6-8-2010 at 04:51 PM
You might be able to get someone to meet up with you in Baltimore. There is a very interesting spot to fly, but the wind direction has to be just
right...XdisasterXdrewX - 8-8-2010 at 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Maven454
To be fair, you got a better deal on those than he would, since he be buying them new. Plus we already knew that the ones you bought from me flew
acceptably. He'd be rolling the dice buying them directly from Pansh.
True, I didn't even think about that.NJLandboarder - 9-8-2010 at 11:50 AM
Low winds that's perfect for new jersey n its cheaper than the skytigers
