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landboard on soft sand?

JEFFisNOTfunny - 3-1-2011 at 07:58 PM

Hey, I just picked up a landboard this fall, but all the beaches around me are pretty soft...

anyone have any ideas for how to modify the wheels/trucks to help it go on a soft beach... ???

besides just giving up and getting a buggy... I think the wife would kill me if i even suggested getting any more toys.

-jeff

furbowski - 3-1-2011 at 08:30 PM

To make a long story short: get that buggy.

a bit more info here:

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=12071

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=12270

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=10839

even with massive tires, landboards just don't work well on soft sand.

dylanj423 - 3-1-2011 at 08:32 PM

sorry to say there isnt much out there.... you can modify a board with granny-scooter wheels, but that requires new or modified trucks and prob wouldnt be that much fun anyway

buggies are the way to go for soft ground... trust me, i have tried it

Houston AirHead - 3-1-2011 at 09:57 PM

dylan is right, best thing you can do is stay close to the water where the sand is hard-pack.

erratic winds - 3-1-2011 at 10:46 PM

Jeff- what is the tide like where you would like to go? If it's a big tide with a nice packed area when tide is low, then that will be your best option. If you don't have any tidal action and have to go on the loose sand at all times, buggy is really the best option, sorry to say.

rocfighter - 4-1-2011 at 04:43 AM

Sorry they had no positive answers Jeff. But at least they know what there talking about, unlike me!!

ragden - 4-1-2011 at 09:24 AM

You could try a dirtsurfer.. or a modified snowboard for sand... I know WeldonGod had something setup once, but I never saw him use it (sand at Wildwood was too hard... lol)

DirtDave1 - 4-1-2011 at 11:15 AM

See Jeff, I told you these guys rule! welcome to the forum!

bobalooie57 - 4-1-2011 at 11:37 AM

Does the turf at your local soccer field freeze? It may be hard enough to get some good riding, provided there is wind. Pad up, though. Be safe! have fun.

WELDNGOD - 4-1-2011 at 11:41 AM

What I made is a sand board. It is more for going downhill,I tried it w/ a kite but could not hold an edge against the wind, so it is of no use kiting. I landboard on lowtide hardpack,when I get pulled to the 'soft' stuff,the board becomes an anchor.
You could try these tires, they are bigger but would fit I believe,but man is that gonna be a heavy board!
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200331544_200...

Welcome to PKF!

indigo_wolf - 4-1-2011 at 11:52 AM

"By the end of the session i'm max out at 44+kph on the completly soft sand and am throwing a massive sand wake like i do on the water kitesurfing." -Plummet (6m access)

"I'm using standard trispoke hubs that i've spaced out a further 15mm. if you get big tyres you need the grooves for the sand! also it will increase your height and yourl need to stiffen your trucks as the leverage ratio has changed."

I would PM/U2U Plummet (on KiteCrowd on ExtremeKites) to get more details if you want to go down this path....

The 15 mm spacer and corresponding bolts shouldn't be a deal breaker. He mentions "stiffening your trucks", but I take that to mean adjusting the tension rather than having to do any axle tweaking.

The only fly in the ointment is that Plummet runs a custom carbon deck which probably has a fairly narrow tip. The tip width on MBS boards probably wouldn't work, but you might be able to get away with it without incurring wheel bite on some of the GI boards.

On the other hand, this could just be another case of inherent British madness and penchent of hooliganism. :o

http://vimeo.com/14528707

ATB,
Sam

PHREERIDER - 4-1-2011 at 01:58 PM

http://vimeo.com/15201600

this looked to fit the topic,

not powdery soft stuff but soft.

this guy is pouring the gas to it!

is that a german board with the spring axle ? its what i'm seeing

can't remember the name?? a thread came around back when WG got his trampa?

WELDNGOD - 4-1-2011 at 02:10 PM

It's a D-EX w/ Revolution trucks Phree.:thumbup:
( D-EX is short for DESIGN EXTREME)
http://www.design-extreme.co.uk/intro.htm

rocfighter - 4-1-2011 at 02:57 PM

What is the board Van just got? Crazy looking thing. Anyone know?

WELDNGOD - 4-1-2011 at 03:39 PM

It's a Flexiboard

erratic winds - 4-1-2011 at 04:46 PM

it's a "Flexboardz" brand, model "haize" that Van just got. No i in the name.

van - 4-1-2011 at 05:23 PM

Jeff (bigkid) is doing a flexboardz pass so if you're interested, you can get on the list to try it out.

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=16264

PHREERIDER - 4-1-2011 at 05:40 PM

very tight rigs , karbon krqazy!

thanks !

lunchbox - 4-1-2011 at 10:03 PM

For what it's worth...I had a some 10"x3" wheels on my board and it was great on the hard pack but when it got a little 'slushy' even those wheels wouldn't help. It was then that I brought out the buggy....got a dirtsurfer too and didn't even try...wheels were way too skinny!

PHREERIDER - 5-1-2011 at 05:59 AM

in all honesty ATB and soft sand is a no.

and with big tires the board really becomes super clumsy and useless