XdisasterXdrewX - 26-2-2011 at 12:40 PM
I would like to buy another kite soon but I'm not exactly sure what to get...
I would like to try to keep it below $600.
My main goal is to have a ATB and a kite to learn tricks.
What type of kite is best for this?
Seanny - 26-2-2011 at 12:44 PM
You could grab a 10/16m Venom combo for less than 600 
XdisasterXdrewX - 26-2-2011 at 12:56 PM
My only problem is that I don't want to spend A TON of money but I'm sort of skeptical on buying used.
After buying that a 9m Griffin on eBay and finding out that 4 of the bladders had broken valves I've always been afraid of buying used.
I know that I can trust the people on this forum but I don't have the money to be buying another kite every few months.
Am I better off just buying a new kite?
kingsofa - 26-2-2011 at 01:41 PM
just buy off this forum, everyone here is very trustworthy and almost no one is running scams/false advertising
nocando - 26-2-2011 at 02:12 PM
just buy off this forum, everyone here is very trustworthy and almost no one is running scams/false advertising
How True bro :bigok:
shehatesmyhobbies - 26-2-2011 at 02:41 PM
If you plan on doing tricks with an ATB, then Depower would be your best bet!
I agree with everyone else, buy from this forum, especially if buying used! Most people here are fanatic about their kites!
XdisasterXdrewX - 26-2-2011 at 04:16 PM
what exactly is a depower kite?
I understand that it has less pull and everything but is it the kite or bar that makes it depower?
kingsofa - 26-2-2011 at 04:34 PM
it is pretty simple and it is the bar that makes it depower (no kites on handles are depower kites). You are able to pull in and let out the bar to
increase/decrease the angle of attack of the kite (imagine an airplane wing) this generates lift (pulled all the way in) or no lift (all the way out)
Kamikuza - 26-2-2011 at 05:27 PM
Buy a Synergy :D we can sort something out I'm sure 
nocando - 26-2-2011 at 05:38 PM
Kami spotted a 10m Synergy, listed in for sale section
on Seabreeze
XdisasterXdrewX - 26-2-2011 at 05:41 PM
wow...
i can't believe its that simple and I never understood it.
Now, what size would be good for me.
I'm 170lbs and wind is usually around 8-14mph
Bladerunner - 26-2-2011 at 07:27 PM
Why didn't you send the kite from Ebay back ? There is a good seller list on here . If you have any doubt about a seller just ask but most folks on
here are trying to pass on there gear honestly and at a good price.
If your wind is truly always that low the best deal on here right now is the 13m Pulse.
XdisasterXdrewX - 27-2-2011 at 08:03 AM
I bought the kite around february of 2010 before I even thought about buying kites from here.
At first i thought that it was something wrong with the way that I was inflating it, but after a while i realized that it was the valves and by then
it was too late to send it back. The guy even replaces the bars break line and replaces with with some crappy rope.
What is the wind range for the 13m Pulse?
XdisasterXdrewX - 27-2-2011 at 09:05 PM
Would I be better off getting a power kite or a LEI?
Kamikuza - 27-2-2011 at 09:53 PM
What's your plan with the kite?
You mean, foil or LEI too
XdisasterXdrewX - 27-2-2011 at 10:56 PM
My ultimate goal is to be riding on water and have a board for land. Are LEIs mainly used for water?
and yes, i meant foil. I'm still learning all this crazy kite mumbo jumbo.
nocando - 27-2-2011 at 11:28 PM
Drew some of the lingo
LEI = Leading Edge Inflateable a water kite
Kamikuza - 27-2-2011 at 11:38 PM
Not necessarily - there's plenty of people who use LEIs on land ... just mean you have to pump them up. No bridles to cause grief though ... it's all
a game of balancing the pros and cons ...
Feyd - 28-2-2011 at 12:30 AM
True, there are lots of riders using LEIs on land. Around here we call them kooks.
Just kidding. No one here rides LEIs on land or water.
What's the price range you had in mind Drew?
XdisasterXdrewX - 28-2-2011 at 11:18 AM
I'm hoping around $600?
Do people use foils on water too?
I tried getting pulled behind a boat, in a tube and with my kite. The kite touched the water once and it was done.
I guess I just cant see how a foil would be able to relaunch
BeamerBob - 28-2-2011 at 12:59 PM
Some foils are made to retain air pressure inside when they land on the water. Peter Lynn Arcs, HQ Neo. Flysurfer makes both open cell and closed
cell as well. Then the LEIs just have a tube that when pressurized with a pump gives the kite its shape and makes it float too. This is very general
and there are others to choose from as well, but yes if you fly an open cell foil on the water, you better not let it touch the water because it
generally would be over right away. Arcs seldom touch the water, but if they do, its not hard to relaunch them.
Kamikuza - 28-2-2011 at 05:26 PM
Yes, on water too - I use Flysurfer and Peter Lynn; they're both closed-cell foils.
Flysurfer for grunt, arc for gust munching and high winds. Size of the kite relative to the width of your arse 
XdisasterXdrewX - 28-2-2011 at 08:40 PM
So would I be better off with a closed cell foil or a LEI?
All of the people that I see on the water use LEIs.
For example, what would be the difference in me using a 12m LEI and a 12m closed foil?
acartier1981 - 28-2-2011 at 09:14 PM
A 12m foil with a full bridal will have more power than a 12m LEI. However a 12m arc will have much less due to the projected area which is only
about 7.5m.
As to which is best, FOILS by miles, lol. To each their own, the only way you can find out which is best for you is to try them. Depending on where
you live it can be pretty difficult but will be well worth it to know what kite you really prefer.
XdisasterXdrewX - 1-3-2011 at 04:48 AM
Hmm, thanks alot.
I'm gonna have to see if i can find some to test.
Ive never seen anyone out on the water with bridles...