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iTunes to Android??

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 07:19 PM

Sorry this is so random, but I need help with something and I know there are a lot of technologically inclined people here. I have an HTC Inspire phone and I want to put my iTunes music library on it. Simple, right? WRONG. Of the various methods I've tried, using the download "iTuneMyWalkman" seems to work the best. However... of the 825 songs I'm trying to put on my phone, all but 20 sync. I have plenty of space left of my Micro SD card, and I'm wondering what the deal is. I've toiled over this for hours, using different programs, converting the audio type back and forth... but they still don't sync. It should be noted that I'm on an Apple MacBook running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. Help please?

Kamikuza - 12-7-2011 at 07:23 PM

... and people wonder why I hate the iPlague :no:

There are other options - even free ones - out there for library management. Personally, my library manager is File Explorer :lol:

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 07:27 PM

It's not the fault of Apple, it's just the fact that I'm trying to sync an Apple program (iTunes) with something running on Android using a third party application. That and the fact that my phone won't play the standard audio format Apple uses... can't remember what it is... but that only further complicates things...

It doesn't give me a message or notification saying "Failed to copy x songs" or "Copied 805 of 825". The songs just aren't there. But they're in the playlist I'm trying to sync, and they're checked... but they don't transfer over. :mad:

Kamikuza - 12-7-2011 at 07:33 PM

Foobar is the name I was trying to remember ...

File Explorer :thumbup:

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 07:40 PM

What does File Explorer do? And can I use it on a Mac?

Leojim - 12-7-2011 at 07:53 PM

It's Stevie Jobs punishing you for not buying an iphone. He doesn't play well with others. It's the apple way.

I'm assuming the idiotunes songs had DRM for piracy protection. Gonna need something that will convert the songs to mp3 and or remove the DRM.
In the past I used a program called Tunebite to fix my problem. I see they have it for the mac. You should be able to download a trial to see if it works for you. The trial has a 60 sec limitation, but at least you will know if it works.

indigo_wolf - 12-7-2011 at 07:57 PM

Kam is referring to the fact that some MP3 players pretty much say screw it to Digital Rights Management. The MP3 player is basically just a storage device and will play any files it find.

File Explorer would be the equivalent of Mac Finder. Using Explorer and devices that support it, synching is just dragging and dropping the Files. That wouldn't help you in this case.

Until about 2-3 years ago, Sony was terrible about DRM and provided a terribly synch program called SoundStage (ewwwwww). More recent players use the storage model and can be synched with Windows Media Player or you can just drag and drop entire folders onto the device and it will generate the music library by scanning the devices directory structure.

Are you running any partitioning or multi-boot software on the Mac?

ATB,
Sam

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 08:01 PM

Partitioning or multi-boot software? I don't think so... I'm just trying to get my stupid library to work... gah. Somehow it just unchecked my entire library... computers suck. Now I have to scroll back through 2,000+ songs and selectively check them again. Grrrrrr...

Houston AirHead - 12-7-2011 at 08:05 PM

ive done this, all you need to do is copy and paste your songs from your ipod to your computer,

the mp3 files will have names like as2,as3,as4,as5 as6 ect... ect....

you have to click on each file to see which song is which. rename rinse and repeat

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 08:35 PM

I just deleted everything and started over completely. Maybe it will work this time...

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 08:41 PM

Mkay. The next question is... how do you tell the piracy protection to #@%$#! off?

EDIT: Answering a lot of my own questions here... I'm sure I could find a program to download that would convert the procted AAC to unprotected MP3, but is there a way in iTunes to search for the protected songs? A smart playlist or something?

EDIT EDIT: Lol, did it with a smart playlist. I really need to stop posting this stuff and call my girlfriend back...

cheezycheese - 12-7-2011 at 09:35 PM

I think it would be easier to just drag-n-drop your audio directly onto the sd card without using iTunes at all... Then install the card in your phone.

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 09:38 PM

How much of a step down in audio quality is MP3 from AAC?

cheezycheese - 12-7-2011 at 10:27 PM

I don't think you would really notice... It's a phone after all, not hi-fidelity...:roll:

Seanny - 12-7-2011 at 10:32 PM

I thought about that cheezy, but I don't have an SD card reader, I don't know if my phone can play AAC, and with the DRM protection I don't know if it will let me drag and drop it at all.

Kamikuza - 12-7-2011 at 10:52 PM

Trying really hard not to rant about Apple and DRM and stuff :lol:

John Holgate - 13-7-2011 at 01:18 AM

I feel for you! iTunes can convert your AAC files to MP3 which will play on nearly everything - except I'm not sure about the digital rights management stuff playing on other gear.


Difference between AAC and MP3 ?? Very small indeed. I do all my listening on high quality headphones and honestly don't think I could tell the difference. Just keep your bit rates up above 220kbs and they should be fine.

Or you could just buy an iPhone...:smilegrin::smilegrin:

ripsessionkites - 13-7-2011 at 01:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Leojim
It's Stevie Jobs punishing you for not buying an iphone. He doesn't play well with others. It's the apple way.


:thumbup:

to remove DRM ... i use Daniusoft DRM Converter

Seanny - 13-7-2011 at 11:02 AM

I've tried using different Protected AAC converters, but they all use a virtual CD-RW. That wouldn't be a problem, except with the current version of iTunes, they've made it so that you can't burn to a virtual disk. Therefore making all of those programs obsolete. Either that or I'm doing something wrong... all of the instructions say to go to iTunes > Preferences > Advanced > Burning and select the burn drive. But there is no "Burning" option under Advanced. And when I click "Burn Playlist > Virtual CD-RW it tells me to insert a blank disk. *Sigh* So I gave up. It will work if I bypass the DRM with a real blank disk, but I'd be wasting CDs and would have to go back and fill out all of the info for each song... since it only comes out as "Track 01, Track 02" etc.

Apple isn't the only one with DRM protection. Microsoft and Napster have it too, among others. But I read a statistic that says nearly 80% of all purchased digital music comes from iTunes. This really sucks. So this is the thanks I get for paying for my music, eh? Well, most of it anyway... :rolleyes:

g00fba11 - 13-7-2011 at 11:15 AM

Does this help... or remove the drm http://www.iskysoft.com/article/remove-drm-protection-from-i... I mostly use Ubuntu Studio and Win7 do this is never a problem.




Another reason I won't give Apple my money.

Build a hackintosh instead......

Seanny - 13-7-2011 at 11:23 AM

Thanks a lot, I'll probably just end up doing that. I had heard about using iTunes Plus to remove the DRM protection, but wasn't quite sure how it worked. It should only cost me $7 or so, so I might as well...

RonH - 13-7-2011 at 07:21 PM

It sounds like you only have 20 that need to remove the DRM...

Itunes plus has no DRM but you pay ~25% more for your music. We use it because half our music players are not i-pods. Don't know if they will upgrade your music for a small fee.

Just burn an audio disk with your 20 songs.

Ron