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Fastest Arie - On TV

ripsessionkites - 18-8-2011 at 10:36 AM

erratic winds - 18-8-2011 at 12:56 PM

What, no "fastest man in the world" title with some footage of the WR speed?

I have no idea what was said, but I liked watching it!

arkay - 18-8-2011 at 01:46 PM

Very cool video, but I I heard was "I like sausage" over and over. Maybe rip translation services and do a subtitle ;) Wait, did he really hook her into a big kite?

silvereaglekiter - 18-8-2011 at 02:17 PM

we need that dubed or at-least English subtitled. Still I lol'ed M.A.O.:lol:

markite - 18-8-2011 at 03:15 PM

okay it was fun to see but a friend who couldn't see my screen heard the end with the Dutch, the background music and the woman squealing with the kite and thought I was watching something else.

BeamerBob - 18-8-2011 at 04:01 PM

My kids came to see what I was watching as well!

BeamerBob - 18-8-2011 at 04:01 PM

I posted once yet there are 2? Never happened before.

MG-kites - 18-8-2011 at 09:50 PM

Hi Ricardo, for other movies you are shouting, NO HELMET NO MOVIE,
Now you are posting itself from one of your teammates....

pyro22487 - 19-8-2011 at 01:18 AM

MG-kites makes a valid point not only that hooking a beginner into a kite like that ahhhhhh bad move!!!
Maybe take her for a tandem or something but wow....

rocfighter - 19-8-2011 at 04:31 AM

MG I was thinking the same. Wheres his helmet. Even though it seemed light wind, we have all be fooled by light winds.
Other than that issue and not having any idea what they were saying, it was a fun video.

snowspider - 19-8-2011 at 05:00 AM

Arie you are my hero! I need to gain some weight. edit: and go faster. edit:and only interview with atractive reporters. edit: and almost allways wear a helmet.

Bladerunner - 19-8-2011 at 06:33 AM

I think this is one of the 1st times I have seen Arie ride without a helmet ?

I'm pretty sure this is the acception not the norm'?

I don't usually have my beginers hook in right off either ?

Something isn't normal here?

bobalooie57 - 19-8-2011 at 07:00 AM

It's TV! how can you look good in a helmet on TV? I'm just glad the cute reporter didn't get yarded by that kite and give us all a bad name. But maybe it is testament to Arie's teaching skill?

ripsessionkites - 19-8-2011 at 08:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MG-kites
Hi Ricardo, for other movies you are shouting, NO HELMET NO MOVIE,
Now you are posting itself from one of your teammates....


here comes the debate

arie was doing an interview.
your team pilot is reckless. should i point out to the public and the general buggy population his EPIC fails time after time. that could have closed beaches for a complete country, the angry public beach users, causing fines for a large usa event, and not to mention another country banning him from using their beaches or racing. should i continue???

obviously the no helmet thing was wrong, fair enough. however again its an interview. he's not racing. i don't know the reason nor I'm i here to defend his actions. maybe the camera got the better of him? maybe it was suppose to be just an interview and last minute they decided that they wanted him to ride the buggy. i don't know.
im not the person to stop everyone from buggying if they aren't wearing a helmet. locally we have riders who don't follow this rule. who am I to say. heck they don't even belong to NAPKA.

having done an interview with our crew here locally ( http://vimeo.com/1851306 ), everything is on the spot ... go with the flow.

TV = Nothing is ever planned. MOVIE / Video = its all on paper, scripted and edited.


(even in our interview i didn't have a helmet on. but what you didn't see or hear is that, i need to you explain kiting than get into the buggy and ride off with her in the tandem buggy, its LIVE TV, with about 3-4 mins to get my stuff together, where does my helmet come into play)

pyro22487 - 19-8-2011 at 12:30 PM

Fair enough on that. He may have mentioned a helmet to the reporter. but I don't know I only know English and ASL (American Sign Language).

macboy - 19-8-2011 at 01:32 PM

popeyethewelder - 24-8-2011 at 12:30 AM

Ha ha...first time I have seen the Breakfast TV thing Rips....very entertaining, and great to see Ken and Maria there too

dirtslide - 25-8-2011 at 09:25 AM

what a great time we had on Breakfast TV that morning to bad there was a lack of wind . I was much taller then LOL

Bladerunner - 25-8-2011 at 04:51 PM

WOW

SEE what the T.V. can do to you!

Everybody knows I never fly a kite without my helmet on and yet there I am ?

On T.V. yet ! :embarrased:

I suspect something similar has happened to Arie ?

Can anybody who speaks Dutch tell me if he mentions a helmet as being part of the gear?

BeamerBob - 25-8-2011 at 05:50 PM

Where is this breakfast video link. Did I miss something?

Edit" Found it!

Kamikuza - 25-8-2011 at 06:15 PM

Ew whose sweaty gear did she get to wear?

Scudley - 26-8-2011 at 07:24 AM

Another excellent example of why I think Richard's people skills are not up to the job of representing our sport, or has he been hacked at the airport again?
Richard, for future reference if you have to ask "Should I mention..." the answer is no.

S
p.s. Should I mention the pizza box story? That one's a real knee slapper.


Quote:
Originally posted by ripsessionkites

here comes the debate

arie was doing an interview.
your team pilot is reckless. should i point out to the public and the general buggy population his EPIC fails time after time. that could have closed beaches for a complete country, the angry public beach users, causing fines for a large usa event, and not to mention another country banning him from using their beaches or racing. should i continue???

obviously the no helmet thing was wrong, fair enough. however again its an interview. he's not racing. i don't know the reason nor I'm i here to defend his actions. maybe the camera got the better of him? maybe it was suppose to be just an interview and last minute they decided that they wanted him to ride the buggy. i don't know.
im not the person to stop everyone from buggying if they aren't wearing a helmet. locally we have riders who don't follow this rule. who am I to say. heck they don't even belong to NAPKA.

having done an interview with our crew here locally ( http://vimeo.com/1851306 ), everything is on the spot ... go with the flow.

TV = Nothing is ever planned. MOVIE / Video = its all on paper, scripted and edited.


(even in our interview i didn't have a helmet on. but what you didn't see or hear is that, i need to you explain kiting than get into the buggy and ride off with her in the tandem buggy, its LIVE TV, with about 3-4 mins to get my stuff together, where does my helmet come into play)

ripsessionkites - 26-8-2011 at 08:21 AM

Enlighten me!!! What truth do you know since we don't speak EVER.

Youre more than welcome to join NAPKA and run for president. Hell I'll vote for you. I'm sure you can do a better job than I.

Wear a helmet much???

Since you feel I'm not up to speed in this nor represent it in the way you like. What little information you know about what is happening in Europe.

I Quit As President of Nakpa effective immediately. Any objections?

bobalooie57 - 26-8-2011 at 08:32 AM

I object, vehemently!!!! :puzzled: Non-members should not affect our organization with their not asked for opinions. The only way to effect change is from within. @ Scudley, join, run for president, or keep your opinions to yourself!

snowspider - 26-8-2011 at 10:17 AM

I for one am quite happy Ricardo did not try to put lipstick on a pig. Describing the lunatic fringe with politicaly correct pleasantries is silly. Open and honest communication is so much more interesting than BS.
Arie behave yourself the future of kiting depends on it!

BeamerBob - 26-8-2011 at 10:24 AM

I've been around Ricky enough to know that he is passionate about kiting and most importantly he has a POSITIVE attitude in general. I applaud him for stepping up and taking the reigns of our organization (and all the fortune and fame to go along with it :rolleyes: ). He shouldn't be subjected to such scrutiny by someone that doesn't seem to be a member, but just a personal grudge.

Scudley - 26-8-2011 at 11:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ripsessionkites
Youre more than welcome to join NAPKA and run for president. Hell I'll vote for you. I'm sure you can do a better job than I.

Wear a helmet much???

Since you feel I'm not up to speed in this nor represent it in the way you like. What little information you know about what is happening in Europe.

I Quit As President of Nakpa effective immediately. Any objections?


Sorry, I recognize both of us as highly unsuitable for the job.

From your previous post "He wasn't racing." I never race.

I never said you weren't up to speed, I am sorry if it was inferred. I meant that you are a loose cannon likely to do something like call a past organizer of major kite event or officer of some kite organization a #@%$#! in a public forum. Like many of the people who have known you a long time, I know you can act on impulse without thinking the consequences through. The pizza box is a prime example.

None from me.

S

Hardrock - 26-8-2011 at 11:53 AM

Ahhh, I like the way he describes how to get started. Kind of a whole new skill set there and a new way to look at it.

I'll have to try some of his techniques next time I get the bug out.

It was funny the way she said more lessons were in order but she just jumped right into the seat with no hesitation. Brave lady.

Ha, JK guys.

kiteboyza - 26-8-2011 at 12:56 PM

he talks of an accident which he hurt his ankle after the lady asked how his preparation has been going for the Euro's. He also mentions he is speed holder at 133kmph and Dutch champion, then takes off down the road. Also mentions that nobody does it professional. She then takes off in the buggy screaming oh God, oh God, how am I doing.

thats a rough ass translation, no mention of safety equipment.

And yes, i speak Dutch

Craig Sparkes - 26-8-2011 at 12:57 PM

Its not like he almost landed on a camera man!!


http://vimeo.com/25447289

Drewculous - 26-8-2011 at 01:00 PM

Bickering aside.....

Awesome vids! I watched all 3, got all stoked to fly... And realized, its 102F and 0 wind......

I hope to ride with you guys sometime... Take er easy!

coreykite - 26-8-2011 at 02:13 PM

Hey Sailors,
I don't really know what y'all are arguing about.
Seems pretty simple to me.

If representing our sport in the media, seems prudent to play by OUR rules, not theirs. Safety gear would be a prime example.
Putting unskilled riders on a buggy with a power kite, regardless of how good it might look on video, sends the wrong message. Our sport rewards skills and knowledge, not impulse.
If we don't know this and convey the message properly, then WE are the problem.

How many would prefer outsiders, who know nothing of our sport, to be making the rules?

As David Sabalino once said "If one of us gets cut, we all bleed."

If logical thought and honest discussions are not present, then I suppose name-calling and angry diatribes will work for us?
Hardly.

As Pogo observed "We have met the enemy and it is US"


Safen Up! Buggy On!

"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

shehatesmyhobbies - 26-8-2011 at 02:33 PM

+1 for not resigning Ricardo! I look forward to meeting you and gaining knowledge from you about our sport as well as NAPKA. I have not been in this sport as long as some of you, but I have have the passion. I do wear a helmet and I also understand that wearing one during an interview may be kinda in the way. I am sure he is not out racing without a helmet or making long fun cruises without one. Every other video I have watched of him, he has had a helmet on.

Buggy on!

RonH - 26-8-2011 at 05:53 PM

I am really tired or the slagging between scudley & ricky :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

The rest of the kiting community doesn't need to here how much you dislike each other.

Do use all a favour and stop!

/hijack

Feyd - 27-8-2011 at 04:43 AM

2nd Corey's statement. Though I'm not sure that I want "insiders" creating rules for my kiting activities either as there seems to be a fair amount of self-serving motivation in some of the attempts to organize this kiting thing. Who should be the authority? I dunno.

In regards to the video I have to agree that the safety element was blatantly neglected. I've done video fo kiting and biking and I have never been without my helmet. The discussion was brought up to not wear it so that people could see my face but I refused to perform without a helmet. That's my rule and I do not budge on it.

A person in Arie's position is (whether he likes it or not) is especially required to represent every aspect of his discipline to the highest standard. When you're top dog people will scrutinze your every move right or wrong. Unfortunately they will jump more on your wrong moves than your right ones. So you have to run a tight program and set the best example.

We have a kiter here that has gotten a few of our local places shut down and has even been asked not to attend events because he's reckless. He's done a pretty damn good job all around of alienating the local kiting community (small as it is) even though He's a damn good flier and has a ton of talent. But his skills don't match his ego and that's where he gets into trouble.

A while back he did a tv spot with a reporter on here in N.H. At one point he hooked them into a kite and just let the carnage unfold. No injuries or anything like that, just yank and drag sorta action. I think in his mind it was a good way to illustrate the power that the kites generate for the viewers. This is a lot more of an issue to me than what I saw on Arie's vid. Sure it illustrates the power of the kite but also the poor judgement of the "Expert" kiter. And it does it on an area that is not the safest place to kite and is very likely to be closed to kiting if an injury occurs. You just don't screw around "Look at me! I can handle all this power!"

It's ego that will do a sport like this in.

That said there is a certain comfort level that comes with being the apex predator in your chosen activity. And with that comfort you take what would be a risk for someone less skilled and not even pay it any mind. Perhaps this is what was going on there in the vid. I always wear a helmet but there are rare ocassions where I will run outside real quick to throw a kite up to take a visual on a repair in light wind and forego the helmet. In regards to Arie's putting a newb in a buggy and sending her off perhaps the wind was so crappy that he figured it was a safe bet that she wouldn't keep the kite in the air and it wouldn't be an issue.

Not the best judgement but I've seen worse.

I look at it this way. I wasn't there and I don't know what the wind conditions were like or the circumstances of the interview so I'm not gonna pass too much judgement. Nobody got hurt and that's gonna go a long way towards NOT putting kites in a negative light. If a reporter got smoked by a random gust on camera things would be drastically different.

I just count this bullet dodged.

pyro22487 - 27-8-2011 at 09:47 AM

DIE cameraman DIE...:evil::evil: jking good video.