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Credit Card scam

BeamerBob - 22-8-2011 at 10:27 AM

Looks like a foreign credit card scam. I'm toying with him right now to see where it leads. Since I responded, he says he is ordering 10 each of PL buggies and Flexifoil buggies. (No I'm not a dealer). I told him all I need is his address to give him a total price. We'll see where this goes.

From original email:


Good Morning Sir / Madam
With much respect to your company my name is Mr. Frank Larry and i will like to know if you do carry POWER BUGGIES in stock for sale? If yes kindly email me back with the type and sizes that you have in stock and the total pick up price of each so that we can proceed with the order.. Moreover i will like to know if you do accept credit cards as a form of payment. Looking forward to hear from you soon with the sizes and price list of each so that we can proceed with the order.

Kind Regards

Mr. Frank Larry
:rolleyes::rolleyes::smug::smug:

indigo_wolf - 22-8-2011 at 10:33 AM

You're just trying to work that gaslight mojo on me now, aren't you?!? :sniff: :sniff: :sniff:

Fess up, Bob.

ATB,
Sam

pyro22487 - 22-8-2011 at 10:38 AM

saw this exact email on another thread here recently. it is a scam as far as we could tell.

Pulsar - 22-8-2011 at 11:54 AM

Also quite obviously the "POWER BUGGIES" part was added into a standard template that could be used for anything.

DAKITEZ - 22-8-2011 at 12:06 PM

I get emails like this almost on a daily basis ... luckily I have most of them going to the spam folder now :thumbup:

bigkid - 22-8-2011 at 12:24 PM

The deal is real but the CC is stolen and the shipment will most likely go out of the country. Like Dino, I get these a lot, fallowed through with a few of them and then notified the original CC owner that they were stolen. Some of them got rather nasty by the end of the deal.
Tell the guy you only deal in cash and you won't hear from him again.

BeamerBob - 22-8-2011 at 12:54 PM

I figured they would get the shipment and then reverse the charges. Stolen card makes them even more anonymous.

EDIT:

This is the latest. He wants to pick up the merchandise instead of me shipping it. So transparently shady.


Thank you very much for the email responds back well i will like to order 10 Quantities of the Peter Lynn buggy is $549 and another 10 Quantities of the Flexifoil is $579 Okay so i will like you to email me back with the total pick up price for the 20 Quantities of the buggies so that we can proceed with the order... Hope to hear from you soon

Kind Regards

Mr Frank Larry

BeamerBob - 22-8-2011 at 02:40 PM

Here's the clincher. This guy wants me to arrange shipping to his "new business" at a University in the Netherlands. He also wants me to pay the shipping company and charge the shipping charges to his credit card. I'd be out the shipping money, and the merchandise in the end. Still toying with him.

Here is where he wants them shipped to:

FRANK & CO LLC
NIELS BOHRWEG 11 -11
2333 CA LEIDEN
THE NETHERLANDS

Drewculous - 22-8-2011 at 02:50 PM

lol, what a tool... Good eyes Bob!

BeamerBob - 22-8-2011 at 03:17 PM

I'd love to get his real name and send a few of my Dutch friends over for a visit. It might make an impression on him for a few of those fellas to stop by.

pyro22487 - 22-8-2011 at 03:24 PM

this is as wierd as when i got fake cashiers checks in the mail for a snake i was selling. story goes im selling a granite burmese python for 175. the guy wants me to sell him the snake for 250 and he would then send me 2 checks for 750 a piece. he would then have some person come and pick the snake up and that person would transport the snake to newyork. i was suppose to keep 250 and send the rest of the mony from the checks to a p.o. box in newyork for the live animal transporter. i can ship a snake anywhere in the usa for 50$ to 60$. it just sounded wierd we got the checks and turned them in to the police. sorry for the veering here.

Pulsar - 22-8-2011 at 04:31 PM

Very strange that someone would ship a fraudulent transaction to the Netherlands. Sounds more of a Nigerian scam, or any other country where you can get away with anything. If you report this to Dutch authorities, the police downhere would probably take a deep look into it.

Another thing: "11 -11" is not a valid building number. The building in question is quite large and spans 2 house numbers, 11 and 13, so the right number is 11-13. Who gets their own address wrong? The building is a biochemistry lab that houses multiple small businesses, which obviously all involve chemistry or biology. Also LLC is not used in Holland, the correct Dutch term would be BV. Strange that that part would be translated.

ripsessionkites - 22-8-2011 at 04:46 PM

Never got them in the past with RSKB.

Not as famous as ToxicBeaver is. Probably we don't sell enough each year to be on the hit list. Lol.

BeamerBob - 22-8-2011 at 05:05 PM

Thanks for the local insight Pulsar!

Rip, I could easily be VaporBeaver as well! Do you have my new address?

bigkid - 23-8-2011 at 06:16 AM

If you get the CC number you can call the CC company and ask if that person is authorized to use the card. I usually get the real persons name of the CC and then google the address, phone number, or address and then contact them and see if they know if the CC has been stolen. You could be a Hero, :bigok:

Bladerunner - 23-8-2011 at 06:27 AM

Seems Big Kid has the best reaction.

Get the CC and save the poor owner some grief. Good people need to work a bit harder at making bad peoples lives less easy these days.
:bigok:

ripsessionkites - 23-8-2011 at 11:00 AM

VISA and MC both have a validation system. they will tell you if the address matches the card you have.

its the only way to do biz when dealing with a CC transaction.

DAKITEZ - 23-8-2011 at 11:02 AM

1 - 800 - VISA - 750 to check visa card

acampbell - 23-8-2011 at 01:19 PM

I get those just about every day too. I delete them without even thinking about it

markite - 23-8-2011 at 03:25 PM

Like everyone said one f the age old scams, ordering quantities of items and they know nothing about what they are ordering and steer the conversation another direction, fraudulent credit cards, fraudulent cheques - often offering more money than you want and getting a wire transfer of the funds and you get stuck eventually for all the funds and costs etc.
I had the phone call last night from a guy with an Indian accent sounding like it was a call centre telling me he was calling from Windows Microsoft to tell me they had info my computer was infected with spyware and viruses etc. I heard about this one a while ago how they get people to type in commands that bring up what appears to be internal warnings but you end up typing your passwords and giving remote access to your computer. Long story short I start asking this guy if he can see the problem right now (I'm not even on the computer plus I run Macs) so he says yes. I start pretending I'm elderly and thank god he called because I was having trouble understanding the computer and I had over 200,000.00 in savings I was worried about loosing in the computer. He was asking if I was sitting in front of the computer and telling what to type. I told him I don't see what he is telling me and I keep getting a message. he asked what the message was and I said it says "you are a low life scum sucking scammer that should rot in hell for trying to rip people off you F'n A_hole stupid moron"
....long pause and he starts whispering you f_off,I'm going to F_ you and then he hangs up on me, the nerve, I had so much more to talk about.

BeamerBob - 26-8-2011 at 12:05 PM

I have the CC numbers now. The preschool in PA was very shocked and grateful for the information. The Chinese family in Alpharetta GA that has the other card doesn't have a google trail to find them with. I called the FBI about it but they are busy it seems.

erratic winds - 26-8-2011 at 12:14 PM

Great work Bob!

macboy - 26-8-2011 at 12:26 PM

Send deDutch! Send deDutch! (But make them wear GoPro's and record it all!)

Drewculous - 26-8-2011 at 12:37 PM

Wow! We are quite the connected network lol

pokitetrash - 26-8-2011 at 02:38 PM

Hello I mr beamerbob I would to purchasing 12 quantities also please...

BeamerBob - 26-8-2011 at 03:29 PM

I got through on a second try with the FBI. They half heartedly took down the CC info for the GA guy (at my suggestion), and thanked me for letting the preschool know what was going on in PA. They couldn't or wouldn't do anything since he said a crime had not been committed. Seems pretty bad that this guy has possession of the stolen CCs and is attempting to use them. Scary. It was fun for awhile but turned out to not be as rewarding as it could've been. I guess it was worth the hassle to help the preschool out.

Bladerunner - 26-8-2011 at 04:50 PM

Vigilanty Bob to the rescue! :ninja:

It's a shame the way laws are set up to protect criminals but at least you did your bit to help the Pre school!

I would think that if more people responded like this they would at least quit bugging kite people? I'm sure it's a lot of work for shops but just may be the way to get them off your back?

BeamerBob - 26-8-2011 at 05:33 PM

No, you could never beat this the way I did. There are too many of them and too many saps that would let greed and stupidity walk them right into trouble.