Statistic - 30-8-2011 at 05:06 PM
Rian's 19m V2 for sale got me thinking about a low-wind machine for the water for the 8-12mph days that seem to have been common this summer (I'm
190lbs). After reading a bunch here, it seems like the low end on the V2 isn't as low as I would have thought. So if you don't mind sharing:
What is the usable low end of the 19m v2 on the water for someone my size?
At what windspeed does launching/inflating the venom become a hassle (without a leaf blower…)
What (other than a speed 2 of course) is the favored low-wind machine on the water, and how low does that allow you to ride in?
Thanks all
BeamerBob - 30-8-2011 at 05:35 PM
Don't think of big arcs as low wind machines on water. The larger ones are really for larger riders. I can ride the 19 in about 15-16 mph and can
stay with it up through the low 20s. Larger board would take some of that away. At 190 you could probably count on riding with it at 11-12 through
the upper teens, depending on other factors.
arkay - 30-8-2011 at 05:49 PM
I can just barely fly my v19 in 8-10 in the buggy. On water it needs at least 12 if not 15 at which point the 16 is about the same. Get a floaty
surfboard and you'll go in 12, but i can't say it's all that fun. Arcs do much better with mode wind. I'm looking to get into a _large_ foil for
light wind on the water.
tridude - 30-8-2011 at 05:55 PM
12mph on a door or directional is possible with skillz.........................8 to 12mph on water is owned by FSer
Looking_Up - 30-8-2011 at 07:41 PM
They are right but there is one scenario I would like to attempt on shore steady just about twelve but slowly falling off and put up a stack 19 16 13
v2
And really see how low I can go BTW I am large so even flysfrs are not really an option for me as of the moment I need 15 min on the water with a big
door
Kamikuza - 30-8-2011 at 08:10 PM
I'm thinking the Charger will have more low end ... it's gruntier than the Synergy for sure.
PHREERIDER - 30-8-2011 at 08:19 PM
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.as...
http://vimeo.com/28282016
i am 200lbs. on a 140 sk sprint. the unit in the video is V II 13m. the above data link corresponds the video, i was out 1-4pm, i also shot
another video on the land board it was around 4
the brief peak in the afternoon must have been when i moved onto the water. power was fair the 3 back kite loops kept it interesting.
it was low tide not yet slack but close. this is the working (not a park and ride) low end of this unit. with a race lower for sure. at least
less work. and not easy
PHREERIDER - 30-8-2011 at 08:37 PM
The board is the low wind ticket. directional race really is the only thing thats gonna run nice in 8-12.
a 19m V II with race would be alot to handle. arcs down to 6,7,8 fill and fly. kinda gotta keep it moving .
bigkahuna - 31-8-2011 at 02:12 AM
BeamerBob's right, big arcs are not lightwind machines, they are intended for moderate winds for big kiters. I needed at least 18 mph to get going
with my Venom 19 with a door (and lots of sining). For lightwind performance I HIGHLY recommend a good, modern LEI. I weigh around 240 lbs and am
able to go out with my 20m Waroo in 15 mph winds easily and 14 mph with some sining (assuming minimal waves or current). My Bularoo 16m is almost as
good, with a bottom end of around 16 mph. My wife, who weighs around 100 lbs, took my Bularoo 16m out in 12 mph winds and was lit. 
Find yourself a good, big bow or SLE. They are much better in light winds than any
arc.
kitedelight - 31-8-2011 at 08:34 AM
ya, dido to Tridude, 8-12mph is pretty much flysurfer range.
for other ideas....
Spleene x-19 looks about the same as the big flysurfers
HQ matrix 15 looks like it can give 8 knot rides, but thats probably with lighter guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9oWyuAkLx4&feature=relat...
Statistic - 31-8-2011 at 08:00 PM
All - Thanks so much for the advice. I'm going to pass on the arc and do some more reading and think about maybe saving my pennies for a flysurfer.
I just did a search for "speed" and "tridude," which should keep me busy for a while. I've never heard of the x-19 either and that looks interesting.
AD72 - 31-8-2011 at 10:31 PM
Speed 2 Silver Arrow 19M
arkay - 31-8-2011 at 11:51 PM
speed3 SA 21m