Is this Pansh Kite site Legit?

You can see Willard the grey flying both the First and the Flux in the SOBB forum. He had great winds, and was rockin' both!

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD nope!

Thanks Weldngod you were the one I was worried about

upgrade...... that's funny......

if he only knew the path he has started down...... there is a reason behind my short signature......

bigbear.... which ever way you go I am sure you will be happy..... I love my PL's but I wouldn't be where I am today without my Pansh..... it's a progression.... an addiction..... an obsession, an enthusiasm, a fascination, a preoccupation, a passion, an infatuation...... aahhhh you get the picture......

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Originally posted by Bigbear97e Bobalooie Ya ... saw youtube of him flying 6m flux and 4m first on Sunday of SOBB .... that's what made me start looking into them .... a cheaper startup .... was thinking of 3m and a couple larger ones so I could start static ,,,, really want to get into buggies

Actually it was the other way around 6.1m First and a 4m Flux.

Thanks g00fba11.

I've got a couple of old stunt kites and a couple of HQ Symphonys (I usually go to the field with my pre-teen kids) and a Rush Pro 300 - which is where most of my time is spent right now. (But it's gotten boring!) I'm waiting for: a new bridle for my Rev (snapped it in a gust), a Hornet 3.0 and Core 4.0 from awoc. (should be here tomorrow! )

Some variety, without aggravating my marital status further than I have to, sounds interesting. The Pansh pricing is certainly inviting, but.... Maybe I'll wait until I've got the new kites and have had a chance to enjoy WBB and your generous offer.

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Originally posted by Feyd Pansh, the "Gateway" drug of kites.

"Yes dear, just fifteen more minutes and I'll come in the house."

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Originally posted by g00fba11 I love my PL's but I wouldn't be where I am today without my Pansh..... it's a progression.... an addiction..... an obsession, an enthusiasm, a fascination, a preoccupation, a passion, an infatuation...... aahhhh you get the picture......

Very well put

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Originally posted by hiaguy Quote: Originally posted by Feyd Pansh, the "Gateway" drug of kites. "Yes dear, just fifteen more minutes and I'll come in the house."

There's a huge difference between a Browning A5 and a Mossberg Street Sweeper but the rabbit doesn't know that.

Maybe you see a difference, may be you won't, maybe you notice it right away and decide it's not significant enough to concern you.

Most of my quiver is 5 to 7 years out of "style" and purchased second hand through forum members. Every one of them will perform far better than my skills can manage right now so how important is it to have "top shelf" gear ?

Pansh builds skills just as effectively as Ozone.

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Originally posted by greasehopper Quote: Originally posted by hiaguy Quote: Originally posted by Feyd Pansh, the "Gateway" drug of kites. "Yes dear, just fifteen more minutes and I'll come in the house." There's a huge difference between a Browning A5 and a Mossberg Street Sweeper but the rabbit doesn't know that. Maybe you see a difference, may be you won't, maybe you notice it right away and decide it's not significant enough to concern you. Most of my quiver is 5 to 7 years out of "style" and purchased second hand through forum members. Every one of them will perform far better than my skills can manage right now so how important is it to have "top shelf" gear ? Pansh builds skills just as effectively as Ozone.

this dude has the right karma, well done young grasshopper

What isn't made in China these days Makes it cheaper to buy but with no jobs it is still hard to buy cheap. But I still like my Pansh kites :wee: not to say I don't fantasize about owning the other brands.

Seems Bob sits with Dino on Pansh...lol

pic attached of a quality kite the blew up, I was on Pansh and it never blew up, there goes your theory bud....

When someone is new to kiting, and is looking to buy a practice/starter 4 line kite for the least amount of money; do they have any other choices then Pansh for $99?

My main complaint about the 2m Pansh Legend I have is the some what extensive bridle it has:

Even though most of the kites today are produced out of China, that doesn't mean they are all built the same.

Even the quality of Ripstop nylon or Ripstop Polyester can vary from batch to batch. Things like coatings, thickness, type of nylon or poly reinforcements used will vary the cost from a very cheap material to one that is very expensive. All of these things will effect how a kite performs - regardless of the overall design by the designers. Ripstop Nylon is much heavier than Poly, some coatings will last years while others only a couple months. Some coatings are very heavy others ultra light. Some coatings are very porous while others are very air tight. Normally, the better materials all cost much more than the cheaper ones. Lets not even go into the thousands of different types of thread that can be used.....

When manufacturers (the better ones anyways) contract a factory to produce their kites, they specifically designate what materials are to be used and how the kites are to be assembled / built. When done this way and under very strict tolerances and high quality control, the Chinese factories can produce a very top quality kite. On the other hand, if the Chinese factory wants to produce a knock-off copy at the cheapest possible price point, they can surely do that as well. They will only increase the cost/quality of the product until it becomes "acceptable" by their target audience. It is all done in the name of profits, not quality. This was what I experienced the first time I received Pansh kites. Very cheap materials, crappy bridles, poor quality stitching and thread and worthless handles/linesets. Over time it appears that they did address some of these issues, but only because people refused to purchase the garbage. Are these kites the same quality kites as Flexifoil, Ozone, Peter Lynn and HQ? No way.... Have they gotten better? It appears so, I haven't wasted my money on anything else from them since my first order of Ace's and Legends.

I am sure that Pansh has the ability to produce a high quality kite, but when they do the price will have to reflect the added expense in higher quality materials. Will they actually invest in any R&D and actually develop their own wings? I highly doubt it, especially when it is so easy to rip off someone else's designs. Either way, Pansh is a very cheap way to get into the sport. Over time though, you may find that the money you thought you have saved at first is being re-spend for higher quality gear in the future. When there are still pilots here flying on Ozone Little Devils that still perform excellent - that have been discontinued for over 10 years now - you have to question if you are really saving that much by purchasing cheap gear....

Saying that all kites are made in China so they are all the same is like saying all tires are made of rubber so they too are all the exact same thing. Try putting cheap bias-ply tires on a high performance race car and you will find the difference right away. Same materials, how they are built is totally different - and what makes one tire cost $29.00 each and another cost $345.00 each.

Anyways, I just wanted to help point out some of the differences between one brand of kite and another. This post is not designed to bash one company or to boast another - but to help verify the point that "You get what you pay for".

Hope that helps.

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Originally posted by kiteboyza Seems Bob sits with Dino on Pansh...lol pic attached of a quality kite the blew up, I was on Pansh and it never blew up, there goes your theory bud....

Oh well. I guess I was mistaken. Pansh must really be the best.

I do respect Dino's opinion quite a bit. And Kent's as well.

I think it's time to grab a friend.... go fly a kite..... take a break and share a couple of cold ones, hold hands and sing kumbaya.....

whew..... this is intense......

Pass me a Killian's.....

This has actually been a pleasant distraction from an otherwise crushing, heart wrenching day.

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Originally posted by BeamerBob Quote: Originally posted by kiteboyza Seems Bob sits with Dino on Pansh...lol pic attached of a quality kite the blew up, I was on Pansh and it never blew up, there goes your theory bud.... Oh well. I guess I was mistaken. Pansh must really be the best. I do respect Dino's opinion quite a bit. And Kent's as well.

two shopkeepers then....lol


enough on this thread, seems there are more Pansh lovers on this thread than the haters and that's a change!

Like this one Ken...lol

YUP!

Looks like the material but I think that kite can't exist? I think it's a proto and we all know Pansh isn't supposed to do R+D

;-);-)

If I'm right Pansh will start using this slick material on all kites at some point?

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Originally posted by kiteboyza Not this year dude, nabx is next one for me