BEC - 11-11-2011 at 02:26 PM
Ever since WWBB I have been ruined. I need more kites in my quiver and a better buggy. I have a standard flexifoil which has worked well for me where
I live but after riding some others with more comfortable seats and different tires, I can't sleep at night. I ride in huge pastures (100+ acres) and
soccer fields so....could use some advise on a new ride or what to buy to make my current ride a lot better.
bobalooie57 - 11-11-2011 at 02:30 PM
I just U2U'd ya re the Ivanpah, forgot to mention what a deal I thought it was.
John Holgate - 11-11-2011 at 03:52 PM
I have small pastures !! about 10 acres and have found the Libre Vmax excellent. With a 1.5m axle and midi tires I can throw it hard sideways and the
tires have never threatened to dig in. So unless you were wanting to do freestyle I would suggest a buggy of the same sort of dimensions and good
back and side support.
I think heel stirrups are a necessity too - my paddocks can get pretty bumpy and you do not want your foot coming off the peg and hitting the ground
at speed.
As a side note to heel stirrups - I had always thought that my feet would come straight up and out of them in an emergency, unlike the straps that go
over your foot. I recently found that this was not the case. Somehow, after getting ripped out of the buggy, my foot was twisted around the heel
strap. Can't explain it but very interesting non the less.
edit: never seen an Ivanpah buggy in the flesh, but the photos look very nice and the same sort of thing as the Vmax. I'd still be thinking 6-8"
wide tires for the grass.....
A good buggy will last you ages and something you won't regret spending a bit extra on. Mine has repaid me many times over with the amount of fun
I've had.
Todd - 11-11-2011 at 03:57 PM
You should pick up the Ivanpah and not look back! Just close your eyes and feel it
BeamerBob - 11-11-2011 at 05:42 PM
No slight on the libre but the Ivanpah is ready to bolt on a set of bigfoot lites for an oh so smooth ride if your grass is bumpy. When we rode at
the sodfarm I started out with wide 6.5" tires and they were squirmy on top of the thick lush but well mowed turf. Riding there I liked the bigfoot
lites or barrows best.
shehatesmyhobbies - 11-11-2011 at 07:20 PM
u2u being sent
ripsessionkites - 11-11-2011 at 08:51 PM
Cheap route ... Add the extended rear
Middle of the road pricing ... Libre, Ivanpah, VTT
Above that ... MG, BBS
The best but expensive ... XXtreme
jellis - 12-11-2011 at 12:17 AM
I thought Libre was the best was the best buggy for your US dollar?
Ed Crabbs - 12-11-2011 at 04:40 AM
You should see Vans website vantantech.com The Cricket XL is made for grass and sets 2" higher than other buggys a very strong an well
built buggy Mine is great for grass an uneven areasan its built to last a long time weighs approx. 60 lbs.His seats are custom made an beat PL seats
Its a bargan for uneven surfaces
BigMikesKites - 12-11-2011 at 07:21 AM
All the suggested buggies have good qualities. The best bang for your buck would be the VTT. having ridden one recently I have nothing but good to
say about it. The Ivanpah is very nice and probably your next step in the price range. Libre's are great period. Then you get into very expensive
to uber expensive. All these will allow you the back support you seek.
For me (I ride mostly in similar circumstances), I found I wanted two things.
BACK Support. - With the back support, your buggy sessions last much much longer.
A Wider stance - its nice to have a nimble buggy sometimes...and the smaller buggies are easier to cart around with you, but i got rolled once in a
really wild adventure on grass and i want to limit my ability to do that again. I have been on two wheels on the wider buggy, but didn't go
over...or out.
BEC - 12-11-2011 at 08:52 AM
Had a great talk with Chad & Flyguy0101. All suggestions helpful, but I am now seeing the payoff for riding a bigger buggy. They are not as easy
to take apart and throw in a car for a quick riding session. Wish you could easily buy a wider axel and a set of tires to at least make the ride of
the flexifoil better. I can't at this time buy a rack for my car, a new receiver hitch, and buggy, if I want to stay married. Everyone can relate to
this.. plus once you purchase all of that, you "HAVE TO" get a new kite too. Still going to do something about upgrading!
I have to say again... stoked to be a part of this forum with everyones' knowledge and willing to help out. 
WELDNGOD - 12-11-2011 at 09:44 AM
we told ya it(kiting) would Max out a credit card... we weren't joking :evil:
BeamerBob - 12-11-2011 at 09:56 AM
I started with a $230 Beamer III 3m and would be embarrassed to add up how many thousands I have in kite equipment in the garage now. If I sell
something though I'm always adding some to it to buy more kites or equipment. After almost 5 years though I'm fine tuning the equipment I have and
adjusting to a new riding location only. It settles down eventually.
I'd tell you to get the best from the start but that's a hard pill to swallow when you think you'll be "happy enough" with something less. Many are
happy enough or completely content with their first or second buggy so we're all different.