I'm thinking about a blurr 2.5 or a twister 3.0 to go under my twister 5.6 for landboarding in higher winds.
I'm 195 lbs. Are there other FBs I should be considering? What do you all think of the tradeoffs between the blurr and the twister for this purpose
and what will the usable wind ranges be? Thanks a lot.Statistic - 11-1-2012 at 09:33 PM
Note: Lad's logic here sounds pretty spot on, so maybe a rage could make sense too, though by "high wind" I'm thinking teens really which I think is
lower than what he was talking about
FWIW: Since you already have a 5.6 Twister, there is something to be said with sticking with the model as the two sizes will have similar flight
characteristics and behavior.
But variety is the spice of...
ATB,
Samdylanj423 - 11-1-2012 at 11:23 PM
i know the post is looking for fixed bridle, but have you considered a depower??? IMO they are far superior to fixed bridle for many reasons...
more wind range... less jerky... can jump safely... etc etcStatistic - 12-1-2012 at 06:23 AM
I'll probably be spending most of my time on depowers, but still curious about the fbs. I know the twister is a good choice but had the chance to fly
a blurr the other day for a couple hours and loved it. Mostly curious to know if anyone thought it was a poor choice for landboarding for any reason.B-Roc - 12-1-2012 at 06:47 AM
If you are thinking about a kite for high(er) winds, I would second dylan's input and recommend you be thinking about a 4-5m depower (Apex, Access,
Yeti). FBs have their place but depower is way nice in higher / gusty / bumpy winds. So much more reassuing to just push the bar out to absorb a
gust as opposed to hanging on to ride it out.lad - 12-1-2012 at 06:53 AM
I still haven't tried much boarding yet - tho' in a way, using a FB w/handles at first seems to help with balance.
If, like me, you are in a smaller space, with a lot of lulls and shifts, then a smaller, faster FB is easier to whip around and keep in the air (and
re-launch). The in-land wind shifts are murder on my arcs.
I was inspired by Weldinggod's use of small Rages in windy conditions. I think I also read here that Angus keeps a 2.8 Rage handy for the highest
winds he'd consider riding in. (BTW, I still consider "high teens" high enough wind for me!)
The Blurr is primarily for buggy riding and not represented as a jumping kite - though I've had a couple of very smooth lifts in the course of using
it. It already comes with the Triple AAA bridle adjuster, so you can modify it to your wind and skill needs (so far, I tend to keep my Blurr nearer
the "chicken sh*t" settings until I'm more use to it!) B-Roc - 12-1-2012 at 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by lad
If, like me, you are in a smaller space, with a lot of lulls and shifts, then a smaller, faster FB is easier to whip around and keep in the air (and
re-launch). The in-land wind shifts are murder :
That is a vaild point. One is more connected to FB kites then DP. Trade offs to both. If I were flying only in land in crappy winds I may
reconsider FBs. But if where you fly has good wind then DPs are the way to go.lad - 12-1-2012 at 07:34 AM
"But if where you fly has good wind then DPs are the way to go. "
Can I get an AMEN from the choir?
Too bad I have to drive a minimum of 3 hours for any decent wind. :sniff:
The Conventional Wisdom (esp. on British forums) is use a smooth DP, (like Access or an arc), for gusty in-land conditions.
That's assuming you have a steady baseline wind to begin with, (like "NW 10-20mph).
All I get around here is dirty "light and variable" meaning from ZERO to brief excitement to shift-luff-crash-cuss to snooze-YIKES-Ouch!!!....
:ticking:Bladerunner - 12-1-2012 at 07:49 AM
I am with the depower camp. You are talking the high teens for wind correct ?
These are the winds I LIVE for. The ones I get the most ( for my timid approach ) out of a depower foil !
When the folks are moving down from their 5m FB foils I get excited because my 15m Synergy is just coming to life ! They are in buggies , I am on
board or blades.Statistic - 12-1-2012 at 11:28 AM
Thanks for the comments. I didn't try all of the AAA settings on the blurr. How much of a difference in the flight characteristics does it make?Houston AirHead - 12-1-2012 at 01:33 PM
just get a pansh legend 2 or 3. no need for an expensive small FB.burritobandit - 12-1-2012 at 01:52 PM
Using the different AAA settings makes a pretty noticeable difference in flight characteristics on my Blade IVs. The higher lift settings definitely
slow the kite down more, and if you don't have strong enough winds for that setting, the kite won't reach the edge of the window easily. I found
myself using the 2 lowest lift settings the vast majority of the time. The kite was fast across the window, still had good lift, and had good pull
at the edge of the window.
I use my depowers for landboarding all the time now. I haven't flown my fixed bridles for land stuff in a very long time (aside from flying trainers
to teach friends). I'd say that the main advantage to fixed bridles is that if things start going wrong, you simply let go of the handles (assuming
you're riding not hooked in via a strop) and the kite dies; and if you're still learning landboarding, that will definitely come in handy. But over
all, depowers give you more range, stability, the ability to spill gusts, and give you better jumping ability. With regards to safety, you'll have to
be quick on the draw to pull your Quick Release should the need arise.Statistic - 13-1-2012 at 07:23 AM
All helpful comments thanks a lot guys. Looks like I'm off to the wanted forum. Thinking blurr now, depower soon.
