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official statement

Houston AirHead - 16-1-2012 at 02:01 PM

I hereby ban all audio from being dubbed onto kite related YouTube videos. If such crimes occur within the kite related community such actions and all people related to the incident will be dealt with appropriately.

cheezycheese - 16-1-2012 at 02:06 PM

And he's just the guy to do it,too. :roll:

indigo_wolf - 16-1-2012 at 02:32 PM

Luckily cat-produced music is still DRM-free.... :smilegrin:



Rock it, Nora!! :thumbup:

ATB,
Sam

Feyd - 16-1-2012 at 02:41 PM

Oh geeez what brought this about?

shehatesmyhobbies - 16-1-2012 at 02:43 PM

No Dubbstep eh! There are some good ones out there, but definitely a niche form of music!

cheezycheese - 16-1-2012 at 03:02 PM

Nora rocks !!!:bigok:

tridude - 16-1-2012 at 05:15 PM

Houston likes the au-natural stoke...................wind, waves, singing lines, etc...................he makes a good case

Houston AirHead - 16-1-2012 at 05:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tridude
Houston likes the au-natural stoke...................wind, waves, singing lines, etc...................he makes a good case



thank you, i couldnt have said it better myself. I especially like the singing lines

Houston AirHead - 16-1-2012 at 06:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Feyd
Oh geeez what brought this about?


Well since I am the official Kite Officer of YouTube videos I attain all rights and privileges to not allow/not allow the modification of kite-stoke.

Todd - 16-1-2012 at 06:05 PM

Here you go :smilegrin:


:wee:


http://vimeo.com/m/15510728

BeamerBob - 16-1-2012 at 06:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tridude
Houston likes the au-natural stoke...................wind, waves, singing lines, etc...................he makes a good case


Thats the reason I never listen to music when I ride. I love hearing the tires, lines, kite and the wind itself. I haven't added music to my videos for this very reason...................... and well........... because I haven't figured out the software that far yet. :P:saint:

BeamerBob - 16-1-2012 at 06:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Todd
Here you go :smilegrin:


:wee:


http://vimeo.com/m/15510728


Now them thar is some singin lines. Can I get an amen from my southern brothers?

bobalooie57 - 16-1-2012 at 06:14 PM

Man, I remember loving that video the first time around! Thanks for the re-post, Todd. I like the singing lines, but think the music is great, too, and is easier on the ears over a few minutes.

Todd - 16-1-2012 at 06:15 PM

Amen. Currently just a tad bit north of the southern brothers.

BeamerBob - 16-1-2012 at 06:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Todd
Amen. Currently just a tad bit north of the southern brothers.


Todd you count since you've been around the horn a time or 2. I find myself thinking about music to go with videos and actually setting up a script to go along with the music. So far I'm just clipping and posting and feeling proud to pull it off.

shaggs2riches - 16-1-2012 at 06:26 PM

I'm pretty sure no one wants to hear my unedited kiting videos. It either consists of me singing (errr butchering good 60s,70s and 80s music) or cursing for living in a spot with crappy winds. Yep I'm sure the music is much better. :P :smilegrin:

PHREERIDER - 16-1-2012 at 06:40 PM

amen , giving me a stoke stroke!

Todd - 16-1-2012 at 06:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by shaggs2riches
I'm pretty sure no one wants to hear my unedited kiting videos. It either consists of me singing (errr butchering good 60s,70s and 80s music) or cursing for living in a spot with crappy winds. Yep I'm sure the music is much better. :P :smilegrin:



Very cool Bob can't wait to see the final product:thumbup:


Shaggs bring it! I enjoy watching all videos.

indigo_wolf - 16-1-2012 at 06:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tridude
Houston likes the au-natural stoke...................wind, waves, singing lines, etc...................he makes a good case


I don't think that it should be a matter of one or the other.

While there is certainly a case to be made for au-natural.... video has limitatons. It can't convey the ripple of the wind against a loose T-shirt on a sun-dappled day, the way the wind ruffles your gloves which loosens along the back when you grip hard or the way it feel when the hair (long or short) flutters across the nape of your neck.

With that medium imposed gap between live and "Memorex", I am not averse to music, especially when it adds to the emotion or mood of the video.

Some notables include:







YMMVW....

ATB,
Sam

Houston AirHead - 16-1-2012 at 07:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cheezycheese
And he's just the guy to do it,too. :roll:


Thank you cheese, I hereby select cheesy as my first deputy of the official anti kite-stoke modification law.

WELDNGOD - 16-1-2012 at 07:20 PM

That's why I pay 60 bucks a yr. to Vimeo. Here is one of my boring vids,check out the sound at the beginning and the last 1:30 of the vid when there is NO song.

http://vimeo.com/26355862

Todd - 16-1-2012 at 07:40 PM

Yep with the WG man Vimeo rocks!

shaggs2riches - 16-1-2012 at 07:59 PM

Might I add that having music added to a video helps to limit the time of said video. At least for me it does. I used to just cut in clip after clip till I had like a ten minute video of the same thing over and over. Now I start with a few songs in mind and then try to fit the best shots in that time frame. Trouble I still have is that I suck and my videos still don't make me look any better lol

Todd - 16-1-2012 at 08:26 PM

Post them anyways... Doesn't matter

wheresthewind? - 16-1-2012 at 08:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by indigo_wolf
Luckily cat-produced music is still DRM-free.... :smilegrin:



Rock it, Nora!! :thumbup:

ATB,
Sam
its been many years of course, but i think i remember seeing nora in a smoky blues bar in chicago..... she had a wonderful voice in addition to her superior piano skills..... every "meow" had this silky smooth tone.....

airwombat - 18-1-2012 at 07:54 PM

This conversation will be (more) irrelevant if SOPA/PIPA are passed.

If Corporate America finds you've put a song they own on your kiting video, you can kiss your website goodbye!:shocked2::shocked2:

WELDNGOD - 18-1-2012 at 08:55 PM

CENSORSHIP SUCKS!

PHREERIDER - 19-1-2012 at 08:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by airwombat
This conversation will be (more) irrelevant if SOPA/PIPA are passed.

If Corporate America finds you've put a song they own on your kiting video, you can kiss your website goodbye!:shocked2::shocked2:



currently pondering this element....pleas help me. here's the picture...

i currently have transitioned into video logging style sail log. its my personal record, that happens to have music that i purchased as audio track, some in total, some in part. its an educational feedback system for myself and shared with those who choose to view. before the Vlog style sail log, i posted here(pkf) as a sail log( wind data,gear, experience) mostly written in something like english AND all while doing the sailing and writing, i listen to the same music, NOW that the music is ACTUALLY in the logging elements, i purchased the music and all who draw compensation have been remunerated. what has changed?

a good example of this is a session wake boarding with video, on the boat music is playing and visual and audio all recorded. the vlog represent my personal time ACTUALLY using the music in experience.....and those interested in referring to my "experience vlog" get the experience /message in total.

is this not why i purchased the music in first place?
experience enhancement, yes.

good thread here ...BTW there is choice to have audio audible.

no argument here, just want to know where my personal experience conveyance is encroaching ....on music i purchased.

i guess recording personal events(what i think i am doing) and PUBLISHING(i think that intent has $ gain in there) is the real question.

airwombat - 19-1-2012 at 04:43 PM

I think that's a very valid point, and your guess is as good as anyone else's.

I reckon if they wanted to be dicks about it, their ownership of the copyright trumps your purchase (as this allows personal use only I think), and even if it's in the background as you film, you're still technically broadcasting?

Even if industry turned a blind eye to it as background music, I read somwhere that the laws are trying to make host sites responsible for their content, so they in turn might get twitchy about your background music. Why risk having your site shut down for someone else's content?

Sorry, that hasn't really added anything to the discussion, and i'd be keen to hear from anyone who knew a bit more about this too.....

Kamikuza - 19-1-2012 at 05:53 PM

If it gets through, it turns every blog/vlog/web storage provider into a web sheriff on behalf of the corporate #@%$#!s - or else the provider'll get screwed over. Nice!

Already in NZ there's copyright laws in place - pushed through government channels because of the state of emergency in earthquake ravaged Christchurch city :crazy: no I don't see the connection between restoring power, water, sewerage and the illegal downloading of .mp3's either.
Basically, you don't even have to be proven guilty of copyright infringement - merely being accused 3 time is enough to land you in jail :ticking:

As phree says - and this has pissed me off about DRM for many years - I purchased the right to use the product; why can't I use it how I want?
It'd be like buying a book that you can't read except in your living room... :rolleyes:

PHREERIDER - 19-1-2012 at 06:15 PM

the music is purchased for enhancing MY life's moments and appreciation to the artist....and this is an place for education about our recreation. experiential learning is how its done, my experience comes with a soundtrack!(which also enhances learning channels in some)

and....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicatio...

"not treated as a publisher" if a forum is not a publisher, none of us are publishing anything UNLESS you have YOUR OWN website. well there you go.

i am ignorant on the subject but i'm learning

AD72 - 19-1-2012 at 11:06 PM