Well now that you've seen it...

enjoy!!!

Im thinking custom colors if you had a choice what colors would you chose

Boys, I know that everyone was looking for something a little more sinister. A little more Phantomesque.

But I gotta tell ya that the computer images don't do it justice. It's the best looking Arc since the Venoms and they look great in real life.

The wingtip graphics are actually pretty good too.

(thanks to Tom Mitchell for the shot)

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Originally posted by flyjump Im thinking custom colors if you had a choice what colors would you chose

Black and green with black lower skin

Black & red, black lower skin, dark orange wingtip graphics..... side of fries and a frozen Coke too.

ATB,
Sam

You can get Racer X as a team rider

... I would have let them have my kewl design for free
I'm a bit obsessed at the moment it seems, but it reminds me of - \m/ :D

I needed one bad today. I would've flown one right down beside I-15 with Dora the Explorer on it. Yes, the Black and green are awesome. I wonder how long I'll lay out the tarp to keep them off the lakebed? :smug:

^

@ Tridude, that shot was just cruising across the lake.

This is what it looks like when you really drive the edge.

Don't let the camera angle fool ya.

Here's a shot of the proto 15m that better illustrates the difference between the Charger and Ph2.

Reminds me of something.....





Designers happen to be Vin Diesel fans?


I still like the green best

i have no inflight pics ... Mr.King Krug does i believe and still working on the product shots for dealers.

OK so there the shape of a phantom, But they don't have the kick @ss attitude of the origanal. Always problem with a follow-up.
Whats next PL Geurilla II with a Spidermonkey on it? Where is the Phantom?
Of course as a power/traction kite it does look whicked cool. And yes the Green/Black are the best. Just expected the image of the Phantom on there.
Dave

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Originally posted by rocfighter OK so there the shape of a phantom, But they don't have the kick @ss attitude of the origanal. Always problem with a follow-up. Whats next PL Geurilla II with a Spidermonkey on it? Where is the Phantom? Of course as a power/traction kite it does look whicked cool. And yes the Green/Black are the best. Just expected the image of the Phantom on there. Dave

My thoughts exactly. They could have called this kite anything but phantom and I would have felt better about it. It's just hard to accept it as a phantom...

(again all comments based on appearance only)

@ tri, The relaunch (for me on snow) has been excellent. Easier than the Charger or Syn IMO. If you have basic Arc relaunch techniques down then you will find that this thing is cake to relaunch. That said I have no idea how she will relaunch on water. I think that PL is kinda focusing this wing at more of a land based user like they did with the Scorp but I'm not entirely clear on that so please don't hold me to it.

@ Cheezy, I agree. I think we all were looking for a more Phantom 1 style on the new wing. No doubt those things look awesome going by. And I agree that the new graphic does make me think Racer X ( I used to lover speed racer as a kid) and it does look a lot like the XXX logo. I'm just glad it doesn't look like the Syn or the Charger.

some new pix from across the pond (second shot looks just like a Syn/Charger to me):

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Originally posted by rocfighter The Phantom was in the Opra not Vin Diesel.

HEHEHEHEHE, that made me snicker a little bit. Maybe I'm missing something when I've flown Phantom attitude is not what came to mind.

I'll give you that the original Phantom graphic was good. But beyond that I have no feelings of nostalgia.

The new graphic new graphic is ok IMO. Sure it's not as sinister as the original but oh well, I'm over it. I can't believe so much complaining has come about about the kite based on the the graphics.

I care about how the kite flies, bottom line. People complained that the Charger was too fast, too agressive, too twitchy. Now PL has produced a kite that takes the edge of the Charger's personality, claws up wind, rips across the window, has stabilty to spare and has more verstility than any Arc I've ever flown and all we do is poo poo it because it lacks "attitude"?

I don't get it.

All I know is I love flying it. Peter Lynn has produced a lot of great wings. I wouldn't trade the Ph2 for any of them. I don't care how good they looked. If the graphic is the deal breaker for those who wanted a new incarnation of the Phantom then I guess it illustrates what's really important to some people.

For me, it's about how the kite flies. -

I'm not complaining, I thought the statement was funny. I agree with you when it comes to how the kite flies is more inportant than how it looks. Most of my quiver is white bottom skin kites

I think the thing that will be missed is the face on the kite that helped the kite achieve such a cult following. (for lack of a better phrase) When I first got into the sport I took one look at the P15 and HAD to have one, hell I STILL want a P15 but I think for me at least its because of the top skin graphic. I've flown a P15 a couple of times and it is one sweet kite. I'm sure the P2 is much better in the air than the P1. Let's face it, PL would not release a sequel to such an iconic kite if it were not improved. I'm sure once I have the opportunity to put one in the sky, the graphic will not be an issue. I just wish PL had taken a little more from the first graphic, thats all

as Pokite said "Original with those screamin lines coupled with the cool Phantom skull lends itself to being like a banshee." Thats the way I look at the Phantom but giving it more consideration (trying to be open minded for once lol) Would a true phantom ever let its face be seen? Screw it, I'm looking to deep into this....bring on the ripstop!

Feyd like I said. I am sure it is an awesome kite.:bigok: And yes it is either Oprah or Opera! OOOps I misspelled it. Read my posts I do it a lot I just prefer the graphics of the PH1 I hope to fly the PH2 some time. And by then I'm sure this whole thing will be in the past.

I personally prefer sporty geometrics over cartoony characters.

What the P1 had going for it was the bold, bright color contrasted against black on a sleek, cutting profile.
It just looked basdaȿş!
Of course, when flying it, all you're seeing is a bland, bobbing, white rectangle!

The Rasta 8.3 R1 I was thrashing around this evening was the completely (and literally!) reverse situation.
The simple red, yellow, green pattern and black logo on the outside...meh:yawn:
But the diffused, glowing, reverse colors behind the sharp green end points on the flyer's side...very, VERY cool! :bouncy:
Really, it is one of the coolest effects I've ever seen on any kind of kite (including most "pretty," "arty" & custom" single line kites).


PL should put the sheer white underside on all the kites they don't want to budget a bottom design for! :bigok:

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Originally posted by Soma I can't help seeing dark eyes and fangs instead of an X, :D João

It's like the Phantom's Revenge...







"twentytwelve.the.legendary.phantom.twinskin.returns.ready.to.rumble"

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Originally posted by rocfighter And yes it is either Oprah or Opera!

Well the cats out of the bag on who the new celebrity team rider is for Peter Lynn; it's the Phantom of the Oprah!

Well...wouldn't THAT scare a few Plovers away! :evil:
(or render them infertile?)

My god that eye of her's under the mask really creeps me out.:o

Underpowered you say.... :duh: well it definitely hauls the mail !!!

**edit** or should I say hauls the male... :wee:

I never once thought, "gee that kite looks like a dog!" (Meaning, it really doesn't matter what it looks like, does it?)

Hmmmmm,;-)

All I can say is I like my bar a certain way and I set it up accordingly. It works well for my purposes but may not work well for someone else's tastes.

I like good power but a litle backstall comes in handy at times.

As usual, Mark described things beautifully.

Yes Geo, the kite turns faster if you want and I think it being a good trait or bad trait is relative. I'm used to dealing with it in 35-40mph, cold ,dense, wind and it's fine for me but maybe not for someone else. I like a fast turning kite. I need it because I run at good speeds in relatively tight spaces and sometimes I need to redirect suddenly to shut off power and use the kite for braking.

With the stock bar set up it would have a broader wind range and be less twitchy for sure but I have a good feel for where my wing is and a pretty light touch. (usually)

I change it a bit if my wife or someone else who needs the kite to be more forgiving is going to be on it. Also if I'm flying an F-Arc the setting are different.

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Originally posted by BeamerBobAlso odd with an arc to be able to run with your hand on top. I usually find myself pulling against autozenith on other arcs.

I thought the exact same. I like to ride toeside kitesurfing with one hand on the bar and found it kind of annoying to have to keep tension to prevent the autozenith. I found the Synergy had a strong tendency to autozenith. The Phantom 1 would stay where you put it and the P2 seems to have the same trait. I did not want to try my 9M on the water for fear of bowtie and what the kite did when the lines went slack. What happens with the P2 when the lines go a bit slack? Does it keep the shape or go wet noodle? I really like the red black and white BTW and how the red shows through on the bottom side of the kite. Kind of a more angular venom graphic

I noticed on the PL site the Phantom is not under products for kitesurfing. It does have kitesurfing listed on the infographic.

What do the sizes compare to say a 13M Venom? A 12M or 15M?

Well now that you've seen it...

I predict an increase in future sales. An anonymous source told me you can get custom color arrangement for a fee, and now they are available in an ultra lightweight material. Thanks VO!

I've already uploaded my own phantom image
for my next kite. :roll:

One Piece Leading Edge

Leading Edge...

The PII Performance circle has
"Buggying" rated the same as "Kitesurfing"
and they're both rated two blocks BELOW "Landboarding" and "Snowkiting!" (Odd, considering it's said they were inspired by NABX to make a new Phanny!")




I dunno much about kite construction, but this close up of the vent(?) shows a seam along the leading edge(?)

I was on the phone with Angus as he uncrated boxes from China. 9m, 15, and 18m Phanny IIs are there.

Graphics and colors didn't come up in the conversation.