Clunthoo - 11-4-2012 at 01:29 PM
A guy I usually fly with is only 14 and is thinking of buying a PL Synergy 12m but I heard ARC's dont have a great low end. He has same kite as mine
10m access. I would say he weighs about 50kg as he is pretty short as well. Good idea? Bad idea?
Thanks guys
EDIT: out of interest does the synergy have a lot of depower?
BeamerBob - 11-4-2012 at 02:28 PM
Depower is ok on the synergy. The 12 is a VERY fast turner and generates power while doing it. Arcs just aren't great for low wind work, but shine
as the wind picks up and have crazy upper limits for their size. Your friend will be fine with a 12 Syn in the right winds. He'll just have to find
the range that works for him and his skills.
erratic winds - 11-4-2012 at 02:35 PM
Someone more familiar with arcs might have a different opinion, but I believe there would be significant overlap of a SYN 12 and a Access 10.
Clunthoo - 11-4-2012 at 03:19 PM
oh no, the access will be gone to fund the synergy
Bladerunner - 11-4-2012 at 04:37 PM
As you understand arcs have a much smaller projected area than foils and LEI.
The 12m Synergy will be closer to an 8m Access in it's bottom end but will take him into much higher winds than the 8 or 10m . The 10m Access actually
has a pretty good bottom end say about 6mph the 12m Synergy will need more like 10.
I have 10 and 15m Synergy and like them a lot but I NEED a large foil to handle the sub 8mph winds.
If your winds are typically below 10mph then your friend may want to rethink things? If he is looking for more top end + gust munching then he is on
the right track.
PHREERIDER - 11-4-2012 at 06:32 PM
well he will feel over powered. trim it down to almost unhooked then add it back slowly. 10mph would be plenty. 15mph super big air. fast and
powerful maybe a little more nimble than the access. this kite will ride a 200# rider in 15mph on the water. if he can rock the access the syn will
be easy step with far more range.
Clunthoo - 12-4-2012 at 08:44 AM
Thinking of getting one myself now 
He said he feels comfortable on the access at
about 10-12 knots and said it gets hairy above 15. Will the synergy be able to handle gusts better than the access?
cheers for info
erratic winds - 12-4-2012 at 09:23 AM
Yes, the lack of a serious bridle allows ARC's to jellyfish about to absorb gusts better than a bridled foil kite like the access.
Bladerunner - 12-4-2012 at 04:55 PM
The Access your friend has is a pretty good kite for gusts. The arc deals with them differently. With no bridle it sort of shape shifts. Auto zenith
makes waiting out gusts feel much safer than on foils.
My biggest warning about arcs in general and the 12m you mention is the lack of bottom end. I promise your friend will enjoy this kite even above
15kts but he will be disapointed with the bottom end compared to the 10m Access. It has a pretty good low wind rep'. He will be stuck if the wind is
under 6kts.
The Access is not a lifty kite so if your friend is after more air he will be pleased.
What will he be riding ?
Clunthoo - 13-4-2012 at 02:05 AM
He rides a landboard so won't mind the lift
Should be getting mine soon if everything plans out right. There is a overlap I know, but once I get enough for a board I will be using it on the
water
Bladerunner - 13-4-2012 at 06:47 AM
Not too much overlap . Holding on to both kites would be great ! The 12m arc will just be lighting up about the time a 10m Access is getting
overpowered. The access will be handy for those winds too low for the Syn.
Clunthoo - 13-4-2012 at 09:55 AM
Oh ok cool should have it in 2 weeks or so. Can't wait to feel those floatly
jumps the access just can't give me as well :roll: