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What is the best kite for landboarding(depower or fb)

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 10:01 AM

I would like to know what everyone thinks is the best landboarding kite.
I want to know about fixed bridle and depower kites

Drewculous - 30-5-2012 at 10:08 AM

Im partial to my charger and twister lol.... Lotsa opinions comin your way!

flyjump - 30-5-2012 at 10:21 AM

If you want to get the most out of jumping, then go with depower. you'll be able to hold down a bigger kite in stronger winds and go huge. It's also nice not having to worry about kite collapse

ragden - 30-5-2012 at 10:22 AM

Fly both and figure out what you like...
;)

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 10:41 AM

I f i decide to go with a fb i think ill go with the twister

mougl - 30-5-2012 at 11:07 AM

I've tried the ATB on both. FB just frustrates me on an atb and I usually hop in the buggy and have a blast. This year at JIBE I decided to try my Phantom II on the board. I'm sold. Depower all the way!!

Mucho better in gusts, more kite in the air, was easier to balance with a bar IMHO, nice and floaty when I did jump. Damn I love depower!!

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 11:28 AM

Yeah I think thats what ill end up getting. depower. now I just need to find a good one in my budget

carltb - 30-5-2012 at 12:13 PM

gotta go depower!!!!

ikemiester - 30-5-2012 at 12:44 PM

Find an old frenzy, montana, ranger, or PL with some life left in it... You could be able to get one around 3-400ish if it was mad in the mid and later 2000s

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 01:06 PM

I have beenlooking for a montana but cant find a good one
I am considering getting a ranger. has anyone flown one

Bladerunner - 30-5-2012 at 01:37 PM

I only go to fixed bridle and the board as a last resort. Large and small for the extremes. If winds are decent depower is the perfect match.

Jumping is far better with a good depower.

The Ranger is a good kite for it's day. Not a bad place to start on a budget. Arcs can be good bang for buck as well.

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 01:47 PM

I dont have enough wind for arcs

B-Roc - 30-5-2012 at 01:51 PM

Depower all the way.

Shameless plug, I am selling my like new yetis. You could get both my 4.5m and use it as a trainer and grow into it as a high wind kite along with my 6 for moderate winds for the price of one montana or frenzy.

Drewculous - 30-5-2012 at 02:46 PM

I thought you meant which depower is best... And which fb is best :lol:

No dude, go depower... Without question... Like everyone said, bigger jumps, better hang time... Still partial to my charger and other arcs tho :D



What surface you ride on? What winds do you get usually? How big are ya?

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 03:08 PM

semi rough grass soccer field
on a good day wind ranges from 7 to 15
i weigh 190 lbs

I landboard and buggy

ikemiester - 30-5-2012 at 04:27 PM

I think you could get a bigger arc to work... a 15, 16, or 19:Ange09:

B-Roc - 30-5-2012 at 04:32 PM

12m eskimo III for sale here http://www.live2kite.com/gin-kites-eskimo-iii-high-performan... and might fit the bill if the winds are closer to 10-15 on grass. 7-10 on grass might be a stretch at your weight if the grass is thick or long.

For low winds I'd recommend a foil over an arc unless you want to deal with pre inflation issues or carry a portable leaf blower to assist you.

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 04:36 PM

i can carrya fan, that doesnt bother me, its just that i dont have alot of money

Feyd - 30-5-2012 at 04:38 PM

Not sure what ur wind is but a big arc could possibly work but whatever manufacturer, I agree depow is the way to go.

Broader wind range alone is worth it.

mougl - 30-5-2012 at 04:41 PM

From what I'm finding, larger arcs really start to come alive in 12-15 mph. I'd suggest a depower foil maybe 14-15m.

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 04:55 PM

I think a 14-15m kite will turn too slow for me
it will make it hard for me to redirect because i wont have enough room at my local field where i fly 80 percent of the time

B-Roc - 30-5-2012 at 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by shortlineflyer
I think a 14-15m kite will turn too slow for me
it will make it hard for me to redirect because i wont have enough room at my local field where i fly 80 percent of the time


I find bigger kites don't have to be redirected so aggressively because they have so much more float as long as you don't send them too far behind you it is OK that you don't bring them back in front of you. You may not roll away fully powered but you'll land soft enough.

If that is a true concern for you though, then your only alternative is a 8m-ish fixed bridle which will be great around 7 and quite something else at 15.

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 05:25 PM

what about a 12m ranger or montana or frenzy

shortlineflyer - 30-5-2012 at 05:27 PM

If i decide to go with fb i think it will be a twister, blade, or voltage

shortlineflyer - 31-5-2012 at 07:44 AM

tpoic got moved

Bladerunner - 31-5-2012 at 08:10 AM

If a good day is 7 - 15 then the 19m Venom Arkay has for sale may be worth a look?

I can't speak for the Venoms but my 18m turns Just fast enough for my small park and serves me well in 7 - 15mph. At 15 I have the luxury of moving to 15m / 12m arcs.

Feyd - 31-5-2012 at 06:21 PM

12m Ranger is awesome in light winds and turns fast for a big girl.

dandre - 1-6-2012 at 05:01 AM

Don't go with FB for landboarding/ serious jumping.
I mean it's fine if thats what you got, but a depower has more safety features and stupid awesome loft

PHREERIDER - 1-6-2012 at 06:21 AM

depower is my choice,

definitelt the biggest difference between the 2 types FB/depower. has to do with rider balance and technique.

FB most all the balance with the kite is thru the shoulders and upper body, typically "unhooked " but usually with a handy strop for cruise and breaks.

Depower the balance is thru the hips and legs because of the harness. which can be unhooked but most depower units are best hooked in.

which is best? depower for range, and safety unbeatable.

FB is where most ALL start in kiting in general, so the intro to LAND BOARD is mostly FB that progresses to harnessed(strop) then eventually to depower.

kite pilot skills are somewhat different to yield the same airs, basically the kite action is the same, just FB operated by handles and depower thru a bar system.

simple start-> unhooked FB-----> FB+strop+harness--> depower+harness --->depower unhooked.

UNHOOKED FB is an important part that is usually far too short in practice AND THE benefit is that when you go to depower YOU ARE UNHOOKED READY.

now which kite to buy ? get an arc , get a tube , get a FB depower. get some FB foils.

the more you mix it up and master each type the greater the reward.

shortlineflyer - 1-6-2012 at 09:09 AM

I flew my 5m scout I without a harness for atleast a year and a half before i got my first harness