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Skis + sand

Kober - 30-10-2012 at 12:36 PM

Short video from last WBB where Zeb is showing that is possible to use skis on sandy beach when waiting for snow to arrive ....
Thanks Zeb ,,,,, Its nice to see people with new ideas ....

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erratic winds - 30-10-2012 at 01:14 PM

that is ridiculous, so impressed

Good

skimtwashington - 30-10-2012 at 01:39 PM

so you did have footage after all...:tumble:

big_d - 30-10-2012 at 02:21 PM

looks fun, but theres no way I'd take my skis on sand!

pyro22487 - 30-10-2012 at 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by big_d
looks fun, but theres no way I'd take my skis on sand!


I feel the same way about my board and my skies.

B-Roc - 30-10-2012 at 04:14 PM

At one time I think I had 5+ pairs of skis. Think I'm down to 3 or 4 now. I'd use one of my beater sets. Was he flying super powered or once you crack the friction barrier was it relatively easy for him to keep going.

That's an Ikon kite, I believe? Anyone get a chance to fly that and comment? Looking for althernatives to Gin and like the niche companies.

erratic winds - 30-10-2012 at 04:15 PM

There are so many pairs of skis in the basement that I think this is gonna have to happen.

Kamikuza - 30-10-2012 at 05:10 PM

... I might have to start raiding the trash cans at the local shops...

It's like improved scudding..and then not some..

skimtwashington - 30-10-2012 at 08:48 PM

I believe its a lot of pressure on the legs in overcoming the friction. You need to rest often -every 5- 10 minutes -per discussing w/Zeb - as I recall. But ask Zeb yourself.

What I did not ask is the difference riding loose sand vs hard packed...or even wet.

I also don't know if you can carve and turn too well , or it's more straight line riding and triangulation. I bet more the latter.

Throw in a 360 twisting jump and landing...... and imagine overcoming initial friction upon landing.

Reminds me of Siver Oylmpic medalist cross country skiier Bill Koch's more bizarre cross country skiing(racing) on beach's incoming tidewater (like skim boarders use) as he tried to invent a new sport variation(and maybe got a little nutty?) .

This isn't that bizarre as I may may bring down skis to beach and try it...and I think a few more might try as I'm hearing on here.

Anything that allows a ride by using a kite in the wind.....

lives2fly - 31-10-2012 at 02:23 AM

I've thought about trying this a few times but neither of my boards is in bad enough shape that I don't care about ruining them!!

bigkid - 31-10-2012 at 05:11 AM

I would guess from the vid that Zeb has been out in the snow a time or to, that helps to overcome the sticky snow feeling.
I tried a few years ago with a short short pair of skis and had a hard time getting past the griping wet sand part. I found that skis about 4' long on soft dry sand was the easiest, wasn't able to use the snowboard, couldn't lean back enough to get going. Face planting in sand isn't the same as snow.:crazy:
I did enjoy seeing the tandem rider in the sled behind him. :lol:
I had to watch a second time, helps with the need to snowkite.

may need to rethink the loophole thing again for Washington State Beaches. :evil: :ninja: :lol:

flyguy0101 - 31-10-2012 at 05:44 AM

I had asked zeb a lot of questions about this as well- as for the sand he mentioned that WWB was some of the best sand he had skied in and since he was down a little from the harder pack i would deduce that dry loose sand works better than wet hardpack. He started skiing on sand when he was on the national ski team and they would train by skiing some sand dunes (forgot where he said) these were his sand skis and the edges were completely dull and rounded so would ruin them for any snow use in the future. I want to try it:thumbup:
Scott

Vince H. - 31-10-2012 at 06:36 AM

This video reminded me of a ski conversion I looked at years ago but unfortunately can't find my bookmark for. It involves taking a pair of those old $10 or $15 Goodwill skis and cutting them into three sections.

The centre section, where the bindings are mounted, is cut out intact. It is then mounted to the top of the front section while the remaining piece is discarded.

WALA!!!!!! Short, inexpensive sand skis.

Powerkite skiing on sand..or maybe snow...

skimtwashington - 31-10-2012 at 06:50 AM

I went over and felt his ski bases, and boy were they nice and smooth! The new way to stone grind your bases!

:wee:

Here's Zeb uphill kite skiing on an often dangerously windy Mt Washington. Zeb has pretty much pioneered this there. Very few days allow this as wind is TOO extreme. Cold, extreme terrain, georgeous views make an ultimate kiting adventure- for well conditioned and well heeled skiers. Pack up kite to ski down gullys and slopes.... pull out kite to traverse or kite ski up. Pack up and ski down at end of day in amazing terrain.

The kite may be moving you at times but this is a big cardio and endurance effort .

If you could just use your buggy in the summer on the slope...! Up-buggying! :wink2:





What else you can do with skis( a classic in ski annals):

bigkid - 31-10-2012 at 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by Vince H.
This video reminded me of a ski conversion I looked at years ago but unfortunately can't find my bookmark for. It involves taking a pair of those old $10 or $15 Goodwill skis and cutting them into three sections.

The centre section, where the bindings are mounted, is cut out intact. It is then mounted to the top of the front section while the remaining piece is discarded.

WALA!!!!!! Short, inexpensive sand skis.

I saw the same one, skorting, or something to that effect. a guy in the UK did the article I think. Dont cut the ski's, I think it's easier to use short but complete ones.

Vince H. - 1-11-2012 at 12:10 PM

The cutting would sure reduce drag.

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Originally posted by bigkid
Quote:
Originally posted by Vince H.
This video reminded me of a ski conversion I looked at years ago but unfortunately can't find my bookmark for. It involves taking a pair of those old $10 or $15 Goodwill skis and cutting them into three sections.

The centre section, where the bindings are mounted, is cut out intact. It is then mounted to the top of the front section while the remaining piece is discarded.

WALA!!!!!! Short, inexpensive sand skis.

I saw the same one, skorting, or something to that effect. a guy in the UK did the article I think. Dont cut the ski's, I think it's easier to use short but complete ones.