What's up everyone. I have a problem with this 12m access I got. I wanted to try flying it again today and same thing always happens. Winds today are
about 10 miles per hour, I took off and the thing dragged me for what felt like a mile. It seems to have waaaaaaay to much power. I trimmed it at the
bar ( under the soft things on the power and brake line) and trimmed it at the center line with the pulley system. Still to much power and the thing
just wants to kill me. I think I need more break in it and tighten up the rear lines but how would I go about that? Please let me know if you need
pictures I will take some and throw em up. Thanks a lot :-)erratic winds - 24-11-2012 at 11:46 PM
Not having seen the kite in action I can't say for certain, but if you've absolutely verified that all lines are connected correctly and there are no
major twists or tangles in the bridle that would make it unresponsive/uncontrollable, it might just be too big of a kite for you at your skill level.
A 12m is just a big kite, for anybody!zalex820 - 25-11-2012 at 12:11 AM
All my lines are good I checked and double checked. I had flown another 12M and it was amazing. No problem at all. I know that there is something
wrong, I just dont know what it is. I think I need to make the back end tighter but I do not see a way to adjust it. I'll post some pictures up in the
morning and show what I mean.Snake - 25-11-2012 at 10:50 AM
Did you hot launch it? Did you fly it through the power zone? Was the other 12m you've flown an arc or a tube? How much do you weigh? Are you sure the
wind was 10mph? Sorry for all the questions but they will help us determine what is wrong.zalex820 - 25-11-2012 at 11:06 AM
I did not hot launch I was at the edge of the wind window and as soon as it went up just started going CRAAAAZYY. To be honest I am not sure if it was
arc or tube. but looked like my ozone access just different make and model. I am 210 pounds and at the time of unpacking the wind were about 10 MPH. I
deft don't mind you asking questions please ask away. Would you like a few pictures of the lines?Snake - 25-11-2012 at 11:18 AM
Are your rear lines to tight? Try making them slightly slack when the kite is fully depowered.zalex820 - 25-11-2012 at 11:46 AM
I think I need to make them tighter. the kite is always trying to over fly at 12 Oclock. How would I go about that?John Holgate - 25-11-2012 at 01:29 PM
With the bar out and the trimmer pulled in, your brake lines shouldn't have a lot of tension on them. This will give the kite the least power and the
most speed - and yes, it will overfly like this. You will need to pull the bar in a bit to stop it overflying the window or turn it away from the
edge of the window before it gets there. If you let the trimmer out and pull the bar in, you'll have maximum power - BUT only when the kite is moving
fast enough, otherwise you'll just stall it.
I'm assuming your kite's attached to your harness - otherwise it will be at full power all the time and darn hard to manage.
If your kite is about to stall, let the bar out to give it some speed and get it flying again. Once it's up to speed, you can pull the bar in for
lots of oooomph.
Are you landboarding/snowkiting or buggying? These kites aren't really designed to be static flown and only really come into their own once you're
moving.zalex820 - 25-11-2012 at 02:12 PM
John thanks for that information. For the time being I am flying is static but my goal is snow kiting and buggying. Ok I think I understand what you
are saying. But now what is the trimmer is pulled all the way in and the bar is out and the kite still has to much power?John Holgate - 25-11-2012 at 08:02 PM
In a very gentle breeze I was able to fly a friends 10m Access through the window with the bar out/trimmer in but it was a very light breeze. A 12m
Depower foil is still a big kite whichever way you look at it, so yes, it's gonna have a lot of power except in very light winds. How much does it
actually depower?.....dunno. At a guess I'd say maybe 40%.
Next time you're driving in the car, stick your hand out the window and feel the difference in power/lift as you change the angle of your hand - this
is exactly what the kite does. The more your hand is towards horizontal, the less lift, less drag (and hence more speed in the kite) it will have.
The more vertical you hold it, the more lift it will have but also more drag to overcome...too vertical and you'll feel the lift stop supporting your
hand (if it were the kite, it would stall).
Often when turning a depower, I will momentarily pull the bar in to turn it, then let the bar out again as soon as the kite is coming back in the new
direction. Might take a few hours to get the hang of depending what you're used to.zalex820 - 25-11-2012 at 08:49 PM
So you think it's just the fact that I am trying to fly static?John Holgate - 26-11-2012 at 03:57 AM
Hard to say.... can you post a video? What have you been flying in the past?
edit: looking at some of your other posts, I get the impression you've only spent time on a 2 line 5m ?? If that's the case, I'm not surprised you
think the 12m is too powerful. It's suppose to be! I would only attempt to static fly that in very light and SMOOTH winds.... preferably an onshore
breeze on a beach.
You may need to add a 6m XT to your quiver...abkayak - 26-11-2012 at 06:49 AM
if you were on Stn Islnd yesterday......u really shouldnt have had that kite out static.....winds were dirty as heck and outa the west ..the gusts and
lulls were dramatic... i went bugin on long island w/ 2.5 & 3m fb and was way powered...i had a 7.3 frenzy out at first and thought better of
it.....jusayinzalex820 - 28-11-2012 at 09:23 AM
Thank you all for taking the time out and trying to help with this Ozone. Looks like I finally found the problem and seems like I fixed it. here is a
video I took flying the other day in low winds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV5R_atlV7AJohn Holgate - 28-11-2012 at 01:05 PM
That seems to be flying well. Turns very nicely for a 12m kite. When launching, (in light winds) you can grab the center lines and give them a pull
just to get the kite started, Also, if you put it straight onto it's edge and fly it across the window, it will fill faster and pick up a bit of
speed rather than try and launch it straight up.zalex820 - 28-11-2012 at 04:56 PM
I will try that next time. Thanks for the advice John. Would you know the wind range that ozone is made for. Im 6 foot 1 at 210 pounds.John Holgate - 28-11-2012 at 09:03 PM
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Would you know the wind range that ozone is made for. Im 6 foot 1 at 210 pounds.
Short answer...no. At a guess, for me in the buggy, I would assume 6 knots to 14 knots or thereabouts. But I'm a sedate buggy cruiser type. Ask the
same question of someone like Chasta (Snow kiting) or Carl the bullet and you would likely get a different set of numbers!!
