p8ntballsk8r - 24-12-2012 at 09:57 AM
So I was pretty much self taught, with a little bit of guidance from our snowkite club leaders. I've since moved out to Breckenridge, Co and am
looking to kite on Lake Dillon as well as exploring some low angle back country terrain. I'm currently working as a snowboard instructor, and am
working towards my level 2 certification with AASI (American Association of Snowboard Instructors).
I've been studying movement analysis lately, and during one of my MA sessions, we talked about how the snowboard will not perform by itself, it
requires input from it's rider. I've learned a lot about efficiency when snowboarding, using basic fundamental movements in the ankles, knees, and
hips to ride over the snowboard.
Now as a self taught kiter, I know that my form is lacking. I ride with my butt sticking out to shift my center of mass over my heel edge, with my
shoulders rounded and a slight bent at the waist. Now with snowboarding, I know this is horribly inefficient. Is this the same when attached to an
11m foil? Should I be riding in alignment with my center of mass over the effective edge? Does adding the kite element of being pulled downwind
change any of the 4 snowboard performances?
Feyd - 24-12-2012 at 10:17 AM
That's an interesting question.
I would think your mass would be beyond the effective edge countering the power exerted by the kite on you and converting that power (through edging
the board) into forward motion. The more force the kite produces, the more you have to lean away, lower your COG and edge the board.
On skis, heavily powered my body postioning is no different really than if I were going downhill and doing a high speed super-G type turn. The only
difference is I'm edging against forces generated by the kite, not g-forces generated in a turn. The sensation and mechanics are very much the same
IMO.
If all is working well you shouldn't be getting pulled downwind at all.
erratic winds - 24-12-2012 at 11:16 PM
I would maybe take a lesson from Anton @ Kiteforce to try and clean up your form a little, but hey, if you're riding....then you're riding and you
must be doing fine.
But yes, the change in power source does not change the fundamentals of board control, and you (we all!) can do better if we hunch less and stand
tall. When I find myself hunching forward from power-I know being overpowered and wrecking straight downwind is only a gust away. I put the kite at
12, trim in a touch, and try to get back to speed with straight back. Less power, but more effective power delivery into the edge.
See you at the Dillon Snowkite Race Series? Starts Jan 5! Check the kiteforce site for more info!
crabnebula - 25-12-2012 at 05:56 PM
hey dude, just get your center of gravity lined up with the gravity itself and the center of pull from the kite and you'll be fine...
It could be made into a science (or art) about the likely proper way to board behind a kite, but really, it is too far ahead of kiting as it is still
just about fun and enjoyment,
so on your COP over your edge, no it is directed to the ground at an angle proportional to that of the pull of the kite.....more pressure from kite,
more edge from board. keep you butt in to be in balance, and do this with your stomach....use your quads, and get a little on the rear foot (pending
the direction) and think like powder snow, you'll get the rear of the board doing the carving up or down wind,
remember that the most fun Ive ever seen someone have kiting ,was a student a few days ago, by form be totally off, but by smile be totally ON!