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Peterlynn XR, vs Flexfoil Navarro, vs the Ivanpah?

KCKITEFLYER - 15-1-2013 at 01:34 PM

With wanting to do some freestyle work I know all of these buggies fit different areas in the buggy world. Which one is best suited for what?

indigo_wolf - 15-1-2013 at 02:07 PM

The Ivanpah weighs in at 85 lbs. with standard barrow wheels and ABS hubs... more if you upgrade the wheels/hubs. Freestyle would not be its forte. You can fly with on a deckchair with enough helium balloons. However, that doesn't mean it's the best option.



The Ivanpah is better for speed, holding down more power... and watching the big screen TV in the living room. :rolleyes:

The XR and Navaro are lighter and better suited for freestyle.

Keep in mind, that if you are looking at PL, you might want to choose the XR+ over the XR purely due to the 20mm being better suited to abuse over the 15mm rear axle bolts on the vanilla XR.

One of the features of the Navaro is the upturned foot pegs being less likely to snag on ground debris if you find yourself on two wheels.

ATB,
Sam

KCKITEFLYER - 15-1-2013 at 02:26 PM

Thanks for the info.

BEC - 15-1-2013 at 02:52 PM

I have a flexifoil and love it, but fact of the matter is....Parts are hard to find and you will lose $$ just on the fact that it has to be shipped from over the pond...However, they are easy to disassemble and as far as freestyle goes..one of the main choices.

If you get a PL you can make a boat load of upgrades...parts are available from many PKF dealers and Van (VTT) has siderail bars and a seat that makes it a completely different ride. It's called the XT plus kit. You can also run different forks, downtubes, and tire sizes.

You may also look into one of Van's buggies altogether ...VTT...(completely fabricated by him in the USA) 3 great buggies all different to suit your needs. They are extremely well built and the people that have them are very happy. Also dealers that have them on the forum.

BeamerBob - 15-1-2013 at 03:12 PM

I might be the only guy that has owned all 3. What do you want your buggy to do? How do you haul it?

Ok, I paid more attention to your OP. For freestyle work, the PL is a lighter weight buggy and not suited for aerial tricks. The Flexi is more robust and solid feeling. It is made of heavier steel so more functional if you wanted to weld on further reinforcements.

As great and strong a buggy as the Ivanpah is, it's not really one to consider for freestyle riding.

KCKITEFLYER - 15-1-2013 at 03:42 PM

So the Navaro is probably the best aerial trick buggy that is out there. The PL COMP XR is a great all around buggy depending on how it is configured and the Ivanpah is the racing buggy of choice.

BeamerBob - 15-1-2013 at 03:59 PM

Yep, if you want to go in circles and on 2 wheels, the PL is fine. If you want to go in the air, the Flexi is what you need. If you want to go fast, move up to the Ivanpah. Now realize that people jump in race buggies and go over 60 mph in freestyle buggies. You can take a Ferrari offroad too, but better to use the proper tool.

Bladerunner - 15-1-2013 at 06:04 PM

Apexx also have a freestyle buggy. Not sure about it's price point ? I am expecting it costs more than the Peter Thin ? It will serve up much better.

I think Dino at Dakitze can bring them or the Flexi in ?

cheezycheese - 15-1-2013 at 06:24 PM

Whatever happened to the Flexi Scout....?

Donaldgould - 15-1-2013 at 08:42 PM

So I have the flexi Navarro it it happens to be one of the buggies used in the short film to promote the buggy at NABX. They go for about 900+ new and are hard to find. Send me a U2U if You are interested

DAKITEZ - 16-1-2013 at 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Bladerunner
Apexx also have a freestyle buggy. Not sure about it's price point ? I am expecting it costs more than the Peter Thin ? It will serve up much better.

I think Dino at Dakitze can bring them or the Flexi in ?


The apexx basixx is available direct from Ozzy at xxtreme in Holland. The navarro I looked into bringing some in but the shipping puts the buggy well over the $1k mark.

I would highly recommend Van at VTT. The hundreds of dollars you save in shipping adds up and not to mention if you need any parts in the future they will be easy and reasonable to get. Shipping single parts over the pond will quickly add up to the cost of another buggy :)

Scudley - 16-1-2013 at 12:24 PM

If you want a flexi classic, it's now made by Trikebuggy in California. Cost is $1000. I know I would pay at least $300 more for a Flexi Classic over an XR+. I've had WolfWolfees old one for two years now. and god knows how long he had it before me, and there is not a single weld crack. I didn't have great luck with my XR+, my local welding shop had better.
You might also want to consider a Libre Sprint available, from Big Kid? Dusty has had hers for 5 years and not had a problem. She rides a fair bit. It is not the best freestyle buggy as the rear axle is a bit wide, but it is a nice solid little buggy - buit to last. The wider axle makes it far less tippy. The tubes are smaller diameter than XR+, but have a much greater wall thickness. It is not stainless, but in KS it should not be a problem. Dusty's has been to Ivanpah and the ocean so far no signs of rust.
Where are you going to be flying? If you have a large area: dry lake or beach, you might want a big buggy like an Ivanpah. For smaller parks and rec fields, a smaller buggy is way more manoeuvrable and will be more fun. You may even find it faster get up to speed in short tacks.
I have not even seen the new Flexi never mind tried one, but it sounds like it is going to cost more than trikebuggy by the time it gets this side of the pond. Kite shop in the UK says 600 pounds( $960 US). That does not leave much for shipping.
S