Power Kite Forum

freestyle buggy for 220 lb rider

shortlineflyer - 22-1-2013 at 07:24 PM

I have a friend who wants to get a freestyle buggy.
he is 6'2", 36-38" waist
I originally told him a XR+ but now I am not so sure. I dont think the XR+ can handle him especially if he is jumping.
I also told him he might want to consider getting a custom buggy

Any suggestions I can give him.

bigkid - 23-1-2013 at 04:56 AM

the libre v-max. after he is done doing tricks, the v-max is able to be upgraded to a nice full size cruiser. hehehe

rocfighter - 23-1-2013 at 06:51 AM

I agree with the V-max. I have had a lot of fun with mine.

Scudley - 23-1-2013 at 07:38 AM

trike buggy version of the flexi classic.
A Vmax is freestyle buggy?
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DAKITEZ - 23-1-2013 at 07:40 AM

A xr+ would not survive long I do not think. Not to mention that when you got airborn with it the rear axle might slip off since its only held in with gravity :)

A flexi buggy would be a better option or the apexx basixx would be a perfect fit. I hear there might be one on its way to the states

shortlineflyer - 23-1-2013 at 07:52 AM

so its between a vmax II, Flexi, and the basixx
the vmax downtube looked a little narrow to me
It looks like the basixx would be able to handle the weight the best if jumping. but I think the vmax and flexi come an second.

jimbocz - 23-1-2013 at 08:46 AM

Am I missing something? A vmax is made of steel and weighs a ton. I never thought they would make a good freestyle buggy. I certainly would not want to strap into one, if you go over and that thing lands on your head, it's going to kill you.

A flexi or a basixx make sense, but I think the vmax might have been meant as a joke. I'm no expert in freestyle, but I know how heavy a vmax is.

bigkid - 23-1-2013 at 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by DAKITEZ
A flexi buggy would be a better option or the apexx basixx would be a perfect fit.

Just curious why the flexi and the basixx would be better.
Are either of these bugs upgradeable, is it cost, weight?

Scudley - 23-1-2013 at 08:55 AM

trikebuggy's classic is upgradable with extended rear axle and big foot fork. As a plus: made in the US. Not really made for kite bggying any more, but for paramotor. should be able to survive a landing or two.
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No, I don't work for 'em, but I sure love my Flexi classic.

BeamerBob - 23-1-2013 at 09:22 AM

Freestylers have a list of upgrades they do to their Flexis to make them near bulletproof. The pricey new Navarro from Flexi is even more solid than the original.

DAKITEZ - 23-1-2013 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by bigkid
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Originally posted by DAKITEZ
A flexi buggy would be a better option or the apexx basixx would be a perfect fit.

Just curious why the flexi and the basixx would be better.
Are either of these bugs upgradeable, is it cost, weight?


I answered this question. You took the quote out of text. I was comparing these two to a xr+. I stated "Not to mention that when you got airborn with it (xr+) the rear axle might slip off since its only held in with gravity ". The xr+ was not designed to be a freestyle buggy. Especially not for a guy 220 lbs that wants to jump. Brian Holgate and David Sabilino do a great job with their xr+ doing awesome ground freestyle tricks, but I have never seen either of them take that buggy airborne. Plus both of them are well under 200lbs so not very comparable even if they did.

awindofchange - 23-1-2013 at 12:00 PM

The rear axle of the XR+ is held on with two straps that come off the bottom of the seat. You can jump with it just fine and the axle will not fall off.

Any of the production freestyle buggy's will need to be beefed up for jumping. The exception may be the Basixx, I have not personally used it or seen one in person so I can't comment on if it would be able to handle major air time. Beefing up would mainly be the strength of the rear axle. With hard landings, you will eventually bend it without reinforcing it. The rest of the buggy will handle quite a bit although reinforcing the side rails and front fork may be necessary depending on how hard you plan on hitting the ground and how much air time you are going to do.

For ground work freestyle riding, the Peter Lynn Comp XR+ will hold up perfectly for you. I do not recommend the Peter Lynn ST buggy for hard core freestyle riding as it is not nearly as durable as the XR+.

shortlineflyer - 23-1-2013 at 12:25 PM

has anyone riden the new flexi

jimbocz - 24-1-2013 at 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by bigkid
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Originally posted by DAKITEZ
A flexi buggy would be a better option or the apexx basixx would be a perfect fit.

Just curious why the flexi and the basixx would be better.
Are either of these bugs upgradeable, is it cost, weight?


Certainly weight, I would guess a flexi buggy weighs 1/3 of what a VMAX weighs. Maybe sitting on top of the buggy is better as well, with a VMAX you tend to sit deep inside a seat with side rails slightly below nipple level. On a flexi, you sit in top of it and the side rails are a lot lower.

For jumping, some reinforcement would help, but you can do plenty of freestyle type tricks without jumping, like riding on two wheels and riding backwords. I think it's recommended to start with that kind of stuff anyway.

shortlineflyer - 24-1-2013 at 07:58 AM

I told him he needs to learn all the basics before any of the jumping stuff

shortlineflyer - 24-1-2013 at 07:27 PM

Looks like he wants the basixx. So who does he talk to to purchase/order one.

shortlineflyer - 24-1-2013 at 07:29 PM

That one shouldnt need any reinforcing so I think it is better.

kitebuggybagman - 26-1-2013 at 01:51 AM

Theres a guy over here "Pablo" he uses his Vmax for freestyle, bit bonkers seeing it go up but its held together over the last 4-5 years

Bladerunner - 26-1-2013 at 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by shortlineflyer
Looks like he wants the basixx. So who does he talk to to purchase/order one.


If you are in North America , I think Dakitez can get you one.

In Europe go straight to the makers.

DAKITEZ - 26-1-2013 at 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Bladerunner
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Originally posted by shortlineflyer
Looks like he wants the basixx. So who does he talk to to purchase/order one.


If you are in North America , I think Dakitez can get you one.

In Europe go straight to the makers.


Thanks bladerunner but all xxtreme products are only sold direct through xxtreme. Ozzy will take good care of any customers that are interested in their products.
I have heard of possibly someone importing the basixx to the usa but not sure how that is coming along. He was going to import a container full to make the shipping costs reasonable as possible.

bigkid - 26-1-2013 at 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by jimbocz
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Originally posted by bigkid
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Originally posted by DAKITEZ
A flexi buggy would be a better option or the apexx basixx would be a perfect fit.

Just curious why the flexi and the basixx would be better.
Are either of these bugs upgradeable, is it cost, weight?


Certainly weight, I would guess a flexi buggy weighs 1/3 of what a VMAX weighs. Maybe sitting on top of the buggy is better as well, with a VMAX you tend to sit deep inside a seat with side rails slightly below nipple level. On a flexi, you sit in top of it and the side rails are a lot lower.

For jumping, some reinforcement would help, but you can do plenty of freestyle type tricks without jumping, like riding on two wheels and riding backwords. I think it's recommended to start with that kind of stuff anyway.

1/3 the weight of the V-Max? So you are saying the Flexi is 14 lbs?
And as for the nipple height bit, either you are very short or you need to raise the seat up a foot or so. The last V-Max that went out was sat on, not in. any buggy has the ability to raise or lower the seat.
I know of a couple of guys that ride dunes with the V-Max and with the weight of one guy and dropping 8 to 10 feet on a regular basis, I can personally speak on the fact that he buggy is still in the same shape as it was when he bought it.

The reason I suggested the V-Max is because of the size of the guy and weight. Your right it does weigh a bit more but only a few pounds. Of course if you don't weigh anything, you more than likely don't have the strength to jump with anything but the lightest bug out there. I know of a couple of guys that are well over 240lbs and use full size bugs to jump with, BECAUSE THE OTHERS BROKE SHORTLY AFTER THEY SAT IN THEM. But I am sure any of us dealers will be more than happy to sell you a PL of any type, a Flexi or what ever you want. We also have extra parts and if need be, another so you can brake and keep going.