MDK - 28-1-2013 at 06:51 PM
I was in McCall Idaho helping my wife with her booth in the Winter Festival and this was my view. this is Payette Lake, it is froze over with around 6
in. of snow on it. my question is what is the best way to outfit a buggy for this type of condition? skis? blades? spikes? what works and what
doesn't?
MDK - 28-1-2013 at 06:55 PM
photo added
snowspider - 28-1-2013 at 08:09 PM
The boys at Apexx have a pretty sweet setup. PKF member on sabbatical "kteguru" has another successful setup , search his old posts for pics. I think
the Apexx crew is the closest to having a tricycle setup work well under variable conditions. The wide snowboards have an advantage over the
snowmobile skis and if their skeg/blade were easily adjustable for raising up and down no doubt their rig would work well in all conditions. The
alternative is to go with a two ski tilt on edge setup , and that's a completely different animal. I've seen barrow tires run on bare ice that had
some texture to it. An inch of snow that has bonded to the ice you can run tires on. I've always figured that studded tires of some sort would be a
cheap easy solution in most places but I haven't gotten around to that experiment.
MDK - 28-1-2013 at 08:41 PM
interesting, I thought that snowmobile skis would give you more bite for side load than a wider ski or snowboard. this is why I need to seek out the
experienced, thanks I will search that info!
snowspider - 29-1-2013 at 07:29 AM
In deeper snow the snowmobile ski sinks in more, creating tilt and drag, thats the difference. They both run with a sharp skeg/blade that handles the
side pull (and the ice) so are pretty equal there. Original snowmobile skegs are not what you want , kteguru had special stainless blades mounted to
the bottom or thru his snowmobile skis , ran well on ice and would skip over drifting snow easily. Soft deep snow is where the tricycle set up has
difficulty and a big fat slippery board acting like an out-rigger is where the answer is.
MDK - 29-1-2013 at 07:35 AM
yep I found a video someone using snowmobile skis and I can now see the issue. I will try and find the stuff Apexx was doing and see if I want to go
that route. I may just learn to ski 
snowspider - 29-1-2013 at 07:44 AM
If you can roller blade or skate you will pick up skiing easily. Even if you don't , skiing is the easiest of all the "go fast with a kite" things you
can do.
MDK - 29-1-2013 at 08:09 AM
yes Apexx has the best thing going http://www.snowbuggy.nl/technology.php looks expensive though........... the only skiing I have done is water ski. + the 15 years of framing have
not been kind to my knees but I may suck it up and give it a try some time. I bet the guys at the ski shop in McCall don't have a kite 
Kitegru's snow buggy
cheezycheese - 29-1-2013 at 08:49 AM
Here...
One more
cheezycheese - 29-1-2013 at 08:50 AM
Do get on skis
skimtwashington - 29-1-2013 at 09:33 AM
...skiing with a kite requires a bit less overall ski skill than going down a hill...but you should still have the basics down first
perhaps(lesson(s)).
Turning, braking getting on edge/angulating as such...
:wee::wee::wee:
Bladerunner - 29-1-2013 at 05:56 PM
I find snowkite to feel very similar to 2 ski water skiing at times. If you have done that you have a decent background to give it a try. Start on
short skis.
I also think that studs would be a chaep way to go and that it just may work?
snowspider - 29-1-2013 at 06:07 PM
I didn't know the Apexx team used flexible skates under the boards I thought somewhere else I saw a much shorter solid skate. I wonder how they deal
with ice.