So i am thinking of getting a new kite and wanted to know if anyone has flown both the slingshot ranger 12 m and the new hq Montana or ozone frenzy
how fast do these newer kites move across the window, how much more or less lifty are they than the ranger and what is there wind range like.
I plan on using the kite for land boarding and hoping to get into jumping.Sier_Pinski - 27-6-2013 at 08:34 AM
First of all, I never knew Slingshot actually made depower foil kites. :o
Secondly, I just spotted this thread comparing the kite to newer ones like the Frenzy and Montana you mentioned. They kind of like the Slingshot, but
much prefer the newer foils. http://www.kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2352917flyguy0101 - 27-6-2013 at 10:46 AM
biggest difference is newer ones can turn:Dshortlineflyer - 27-6-2013 at 12:21 PM
what about speed and lift. that site only says new stuff is better. I already knew that. flyguy0101 - 27-6-2013 at 12:31 PM
@shorty- the newer technology of the montanas (v and up) will make the kite fly faster and the ability to turn it means that it will have more lift.
I am an arc flyer mostly but i did fly the montana 7 for a couple of months last summer and its a great open foil kite plenty of float and lift (once
you figure it out- very different timing than my arcs) I was checking it out as a low wind kite- which it is but i realized that if i cant fly my arcs
the wind really is not that good for anything other than mowing the grass on a landboard. I decided if i was going to fly a foil it was going to be
fixed bridle in a buggy and wait another day for landboardingshortlineflyer - 27-6-2013 at 12:40 PM
what would you suggest if I I normally fly in winds between 7mph and 15mph shortlineflyer - 27-6-2013 at 12:49 PM
what about the matrixx B-Roc - 27-6-2013 at 01:08 PM
I would vote against a semi-closed cell foil in the sub 10mph range. Better stability when inflated but need some preinflation to launch and I find
them a pain to pack up in their upper limits as they retain power on the ground (so they can pop ground stakes) and they can be a pain to roll / fold
up when the wind is blowing and they deflate slowly or you unzip them and sand enters as air leaves the kite)B-Roc - 27-6-2013 at 01:11 PM
@shorty- the newer technology of the montanas (v and up) will make the kite fly faster
I've said it before and will say it again... am I the only guy who still likes slower turning kites? I think they make jumping so much easier as you
don't whip them around but rather redirect them, position them and pull the bar in and then you don't have to wickedly redirect them either. I hate
it when I read that each new model flies / turns faster than the previous. I don't want my 10m in 12mph winds zipping around like my 4m in 30mph
winds. I like mellow kites with lift that don't rely on wicked speed and redirects to jump. But that's just me.shortlineflyer - 27-6-2013 at 01:12 PM
and how would you compare the ozone frenzy or manta to the montanaindigo_wolf - 27-6-2013 at 02:41 PM
FWIW: You might want to do a search on this very forum for the Slingshot. There are more than a few threads on it. Feyd, Flyboy15, erratic winds,
and a couple of others have owned a Ranger at one point or another and the reviews were favorable.
The general consensus was that it was much better after modding with extensions and compared favorably with the Frenzy (after the mod) of the same
vintage.
That said, time marches on, and each year HQ's and Ozones get incrementally better with infinitesimal canopy refinements.
A new kite is going to be a new kite, but unless you are looking for bleeding edge, there's generally a lot of enjoyable flying time to be had on
older wings... generally at a much lower price point.
ATB,
Samshortlineflyer - 27-6-2013 at 02:49 PM
I already have the ranger, i am thinking of upgrading but i am unsure of what to get. I like the ranger, its a great kite. I think what i need is some
help on jumping with a boardindigo_wolf - 27-6-2013 at 04:30 PM
OK.... the all important question..... Stock or modified?
