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50-60M (200ft) line set?

crazyherb - 28-1-2014 at 09:11 PM

Think I'd like a dedicated (long) line-set for Spring...anyone make there own here? Something about running double line-set drives me nuts with the connection/joints dangling there in the middle between me and my kite...(is that a little OCD?)

I've read a couple of threads on how to make your own loops/ends but wondering if there's pre-made/special order places that do it? Most of the kitesurfers are using the Jerry Brown 800lb spectra...but I'm wondering if that's overkill for light-wind long-lining kite ATB..maybe 600lb? Keep some of the weight down?

Waddya all think? Ideas? Do it myself?

I can get 4ea 50yd of 500lb for $120 with loops already spliced...maybe too light?

Could even split it up...lighter brake lines?

Opinions welcome!!
Thanks.

rectifier - 28-1-2014 at 09:34 PM

I use JB 500# and it feels super solid. With splices and not knots you don't lose any of the rating, so I feel safe with 500# as I stay on the ground as well, and it is a lot thinner than the 800#. Pre-stretched properly it feels like a solid cable to the kite, there is no springiness at all.

Really in the end it's what you feel comfortable with personally. I weigh 140# and I'm using the lineset on a 4-line depower setup that transfers half the load to the brake lines, which are also 500#. So I feel it's unlikely that any one line will ever experience even a shock load in excess of 200#, giving me a huge safety factor.

If you are flying FB then of course you can use much thinner brake lines. At some point they become too mechanically thin, tangly and scary, I tried 100# Spectra lines once for an experiment and they are like cheese cutter wire, yikes! I would keep it above 200# just for handling reasons.

I'm building another 22m lineset with an eye to doubling up at some time for 50m to try the super-long lines thing myself. I would splice your lines up for you but I feel I don't have enough experience yet to risk someone else's life or equipment. I think some of the online kite shops will make custom length lines and I'm sure some of them will chime in soon. I don't know if any will splice provided line though? I know BHP tackle will splice loops onto JB line but I wouldn't trust them to be accurate enough with the length for kiting.

Doing it yourself is not hard if you have good dexterity and quite a bit of patience. I like the locked brummel splice as it's rated for 95%+ and you don't need to stitch or whip it, but you do need to do some tricky passes through the line. You can make them yourself for about half the price quoted. To make 50m lines you need to know what you are doing and properly pre-stretch and measure, because small errors can add up fast.

PistolPete - 28-1-2014 at 10:15 PM

Agree with rectifier's comments :thumbup:
500# (200# brakes) is enough for landboarding.
800# long lines will be heavy and have excess drag.
800# @ <30m/100' lines for medium/high winds.
Buggy / Twin Tip Boards edge harder.
Stretch -> Fid -> Sleeve -> Sew -> Tune -> Fly ;)

bigkid - 29-1-2014 at 10:13 AM

I would try the splice thing first. Then I would ask your sponsor for help in getting your long lines in one peice if your not happy.:evil:

crazyherb - 29-1-2014 at 10:16 PM

Yesss!!! :thumbup: BigKid ROCKS!!

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