emir - 27-6-2014 at 02:31 AM
Hello,
I'm trying to decide second kite. I am riding with mountainboard or snowboarding. I use beamer V (5m) with ozone turbo bar. I am happy to make
training when wind speed is 10-15 mph. I ride kite power-depower by means of turbo bar. If I buy depower kite, what is the big different from fixed
bridge kite+ozone turbo bar.
Thanks
emir
John Holgate - 27-6-2014 at 05:15 AM
Turbo bar does not depower a fixed bridle kite. It only pulls the brakes on - exactly the same as handles. (but more convenient if you want to fly
one handed). Depower kite changes the angle of the whole kite - not just the trailing edge. Next time you're driving along in the car, stick your
hand out the window and change the angle of your hand in the wind - this is what a depower kite does.
You can vary the power on a depower kite. But you can only pull brakes on with a turbo bar/fixed bridle combination. Brakes are a bit like flaps on
an aeroplane - adding flaps can give more lift but also creates drag - if you're not going fast enough, the drag wins and the wing stalls. A depower
kite will be much more forgiving and allow you to fly in a greater wind range than a fixed bridle (with or without turbo bar)
RedSky - 27-6-2014 at 06:42 AM
Another big difference you'll notice immediately is that unlike the Turbo bar which needs to be pushed forwards to fly a kite fully powered, the
depower kite bar is the other way around.
You'll also notice that a depower kite will have a far more progressive power delivery within the sheeting range on the bar.
Sheeting the bar in or out will not apply any brakes. On a depower foil kite this is done separately from the bar using a strap. Pulling the bar fully
towards you gives maximum power which is the opposite of the Turbo bar. You might find it counterintuitive at first, so go easy.
emir - 28-6-2014 at 12:34 AM
thanks for information you provided, I understood why kite is stall when I pull bar to power (I used depower kite two times). So I found Manta 3 10 m
good condition, may I buy this kite as my first depower kite.
thanks
John Holgate - 28-6-2014 at 03:37 AM
I've flown the Manta 3 8m and found it was a relatively fast kite that demanded to be flown. What I mean by that is that unlike say, an Apex or
Access which will sit at the edge of the window with no fuss, the Manta will often overly and luff - I found I had to keep it back from the edge
unless I was moving pretty quick. It wasn't a low wind kite either - My 7.5m Apex would park and ride in 9-10 knots. The 8m Manta wanted about 14
knots before it would sit in one spot and pull (park 'n ride). Brilliant upwind ability and plenty of performance (get it moving fast and pull the
bar in and Whoa!) , but not a kite for relaxed cruising. Would make a very good performance snow/landboard kite with plenty of lift and float - if
that's what you're looking for.
Having said all that, keep in mind that I'm a buggyier, not a snowkiter or landboarder.