Power Kite Forum

WANTED ***Quad line bar or x-over bar or M waist harness***

dirtysven - 17-7-2014 at 07:57 PM

Looking for a 4-line depower bar, if you have one for sale please U2U me.

Thanks.

macboy - 17-7-2014 at 08:06 PM

Do you need just the bar or do you need the bar and leaders etc?

dirtysven - 17-7-2014 at 08:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by macboy  
Do you need just the bar or do you need the bar and leaders etc?

I guess the bar and the leaders, all I have now is the paddles/sticks. upload a pic of what you have and I'll let you know if that's what I need, I'm kinda new to kiting.

ssayre - 17-7-2014 at 08:25 PM

Are you wanting it for your beamer? You cannot use a depower bar with a fixed bridle kite.

dirtysven - 17-7-2014 at 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
Are you wanting it for your beamer? You cannot use a depower bar with a fixed bridle kite.
yes for the beamer, so I guess I need one of the quad line bar. Just noticed got the two confused.

Let me change the tittle of the thread.

Bladerunner - 18-7-2014 at 06:40 PM

If you already have the kite with handles I suggest you stick with them.

Flying on a bar you lose all the independent brake control that handles offers. I spent too much time and a bit of money trying to convince myself that flying FB on a bar was the way to go at 1st. In the end all it did was slow my progress.

manitoulinkiter1 - 19-7-2014 at 05:47 AM

Hi

If your still looking for a crossover control bar I have one I'll sell complete with lines for 60.00. I'll have to go find it to let you know the make but it is a store bought cross over bar. I only used it around 20 times on snow.
Let me know if your still interested and I'll let you know the make and maybe send you some pictures.

John

BigMikesKites - 19-7-2014 at 06:09 AM

You can use a Ozone Turbo bar which is about as close as you can get to making the Fixed Bridle into acting like a DePower....sort of.

dirtysven - 19-7-2014 at 07:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by manitoulinkiter1  
Hi

If your still looking for a crossover control bar I have one I'll sell complete with lines for 60.00. I'll have to go find it to let you know the make but it is a store bought cross over bar. I only used it around 20 times on snow.
Let me know if your still interested and I'll let you know the make and maybe send you some pictures.

John


that's great. Let me know if you find it and please post a pic of it.

Thanks

dirtysven - 19-7-2014 at 07:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BigMikesKites  
You can use a Ozone Turbo bar which is about as close as you can get to making the Fixed Bridle into acting like a DePower....sort of.


I kinda confused myself with the depower lingo lol. I'm not getting into depower right now, I just want to start learning with the bar for when I'm ready for depower if that makes sense.

Kokopelli Kiter - 19-7-2014 at 07:58 AM

It will not teach you anything about depower. The only similarity is the BAR . Stick with handles and learn to use your brakes.

dirtysven - 19-7-2014 at 08:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Kokopelli Kiter  
It will not teach you anything about depower. The only similarity is the BAR . Stick with handles and learn to use your brakes.

sounds good, hopefully the wind picks up today. Want to head out later.

Bladerunner - 19-7-2014 at 08:31 AM

If preparing to go depower is your goal your money is far better spent on a harness.

Put a strop on your handles and start flying hooked in. Hold the handles horizontal like a bar and do brake turns + add brake tension on both lines to slow the kite. Flying the kite on the front lines through your core and controlling it with the brakes. That is sort of how a depower bar goes about turning the kite. While adding brake to both sides doesn't depower the kite slowing it reduces the power produced. [ EDIT: adding brake also increases lift so be careful with the kite overhead ] Speed equals power.

Doing this will teach you a whole lot more about how depower works. Perfecting it will make you a much better pilot. Flying on a bar will only hold you back from learning fine control.

dirtysven - 19-7-2014 at 08:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bladerunner  
If preparing to go depower is your goal your money is far better spent on a harness.

Put a strop on your handles and start flying hooked in. Hold the handles horizontal like a bar and do brake turns + add brake tension on both lines to slow the kite. Flying the kite on the front lines through your core and controlling it with the brakes. That is sort of how a depower bar goes about turning the kite. While adding brake to both sides doesn't depower the kite slowing it reduces the power produced. Speed equals power.

Doing this will teach you a whole lot more about how depower works. Perfecting it will make you a much better pilot. Flying on a bar will only hold you back from learning fine control.

I really appreciate the tip, will look into getting a harness asap.

manitoulinkiter1 - 20-7-2014 at 06:11 PM

Hey

Sorry I took so long to respond. Went to camp for the night.
If your still interested in the crossover bar the one I have is a Radsail Crossover control bar. Like this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/Radsail-Crossover-Control-Bar-Safety... I hope that link works.
Like Bladerunner said a harness will definitely help this bar also has a loop to hook into a harness and rest your arms.
U2U me with your E-mail address and I'll send you some pictures of the actual bar. I won't be able to send them until tomorrow night though

John

macboy - 20-7-2014 at 07:23 PM

Might have a harness here for you - let me dig.