Power Kite Forum

bar or handles?

woodneers - 18-12-2006 at 09:33 PM

land boarding with a harness which works best a bar or handles?

Pablo - 18-12-2006 at 10:15 PM

Bar eventually, keeps one hand free to handle the board, also makes it easy to lean back and see where you're going. But you will lose a little control over the kite with the bar compared to the handles, so handles may be easier to start off.

B-Roc - 19-12-2006 at 07:06 AM

I think it depends on the kite and conditions. Anytime the kite really needs to be worked (bad winds or low winds) I find handles to be your best option. Some kites prefer to be flown on the brakes or with some brake on so handles work best for them though they can be flown on a bar.

A bar is more comfortable in combination with a harness then handles, IMO.

In the end, a lot of it will come down to preference and what you want to gain or give up - there are trade-offs to both.

Bladerunner - 19-12-2006 at 05:16 PM

If you are going to a bar I recomend you modify it. I started out with my bullet on a standard 4 line bar and the performance was poor compaired to handles. Pablo has set me up with a 2 / 1 pulley system on the brakes and it makes ALL the difference. All it takes is 3 pulleys and some line.

Pablo - 19-12-2006 at 05:39 PM

Yup, 9m Buster was a total pig on the bar as well, swapped it over to a 50mm pulley bar setup and it'll turn on a dime now, seems more solid in low winds as well. We've had everyone at the local spot try the setup and it's agreed, it's by far the best bar setup any of us have ever flown.

Still need pics to post up.

woodneers - 24-12-2006 at 10:18 AM

where can i find a bar for my 5.5 buster or 7.0 bullet?

Pablo - 24-12-2006 at 12:29 PM

I've been getting bars off E-bay then doing some light mods. Last one I picked up new was $35 to my door. Needs a $5 pulley and a safety strap and it'll be good to go.

domdino - 14-1-2007 at 02:08 PM

i prefer bars these days...
give you bit more freedom - also you can't fly depowerables on handles (well... not really!) and that's what it's all about!!

Taper123 - 26-3-2007 at 05:40 PM

Bar -> Handles

Hmmm... I've always used handles for my foils as I have better control over the kite that way. But this weekend I did a bad thing... I had a 9m LEI in the air, and jumped on the mountainboard... and went for a couple mile ride in both directions up the beach.

Handles give more finesse for the kite, but the bar makes it so easy...

Now what I need to research is how to convert the bridles of an 8m I made into a depowerable foil.... and use it on a bar.

Pablo - 27-3-2007 at 05:05 PM

Psssst, cross over bar setup, all the benefits of turn speed you get from handles with the convenience of a bar. None of the low end loss you get with depowerables either. I've done it to my 9m Buster I and it'll turn on a wingtip.

Kiteboarder2B - 27-3-2007 at 05:15 PM

psssst....pablo......we want some pics please:frog:

Taper123 - 28-3-2007 at 05:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kiteboarder2B
psssst....pablo......we want some pics please:frog:


Yea... I'd be interested to see what Pablo means as well :yes:

Have some pics or a description??? I've got an extra Naish bar lying around...

B-Roc - 28-3-2007 at 09:04 AM

Pablo posted his crossover mod in a post earlier this year at this link
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=3107#pid129...

Kiteboarder2B - 28-3-2007 at 09:22 AM

sweet, thanks b-roc

Bladerunner - 28-3-2007 at 11:45 AM

Yup,
Pab's set me up with a cross over bar and I'm lovin' it !