Power Kite Forum

Harness with handles ?

mongo - 14-1-2007 at 11:14 PM

Greetings to the forum, I was wondering about using a harness with handles. I have been flying my 4.1m powerforce velocity for a good few months now, and after 30 mins or so, the old forarms are the first to start aching, followed by the rest of my body. I was thinking about rigging up an old 'climbing seat harness to a couple of lines, one to each handle, that would take the strain just before my arms were at full stretch. If they were attached nearer to the brake line end of each handle, then if the kite overpowered, my weight would pull on the brake lines, bringing it back under control. Happy days. Any advice from you experienced lot would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Mongo

B-Roc - 15-1-2007 at 07:00 AM

I'm not sure how you would rig the lines to your harness independently but if you can figure out a way to that, it should work.

More commonly though, a spreader bar setup is used with a harness and a handle strop. Or you could use a quick release shackle and secure your strop through that.

If your handles have loops or lines coming out of the back of the top of the handle, you can larks head a 5mm climbing rope of about 18 - 24" in length between the two lines. If you don't have lines or loops coming out of the back of the top of your handles then you can larkshead your strop to your power lines near where they come out of the handle. This will require you to create 2 individual loops with ~3mm climbing line so you can larkshead to your strop and to your power lines.

Typically, I think, you would not attach the harness to the brake lines for anything other than safety. The brake lines will not provide as much relief, if any, to your forearms because when you let the harness do its thing, if the strop is attached to the bottom of the handles, it is just going to kill the kite.

Also, the length of the strop must allow you to always be able to reach your handles. So if one is at maximum extension away from you, you still need to be able to reach it so you can control or kill the kite.

Kite killers are not effective when harnessed in. Safety is always a concern but if you are really concerned about safety and want to use a harness, you may want to make sure you can kill and control the kite in all circumstances so you aren't overpowered AND attached to the kite.

Harnesses are great. I find they take some getting used to when flying with handles. I tend to fly on the brakes anyway but with a harness and my kites, I fly a lot more on the brakes with the harness as the brakes naturally want to go forward and become more slack so they need more tending with the harness.

You may want to go to the flexifoil forum and do a search there on "handle strop" there has been a lot written and several pictures posted to help you understand how to rig a strop to handles and a harness.

Pablo - 15-1-2007 at 09:34 AM

When hooked in proper, the kite should stay on the power lines, this takes the load off your arms all together. A basic strop hooked under the average harness spreader bar is the least complicated way, if your climbing harness has a single lift point in the middle, you can attach a quick release and a pulley and have the strop go straight through the pulley.

Be sure that you have some way to release the whole mess when it goes pear shaped, standard hook you just have to pull the kite down hard and it should unhook, anything with a pulley should be used with a QR