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Take a ride with me..(vid)

Cheddarhead - 22-4-2015 at 04:31 PM

Slapped together a vid from some buggy footage I had from the 18th. Been trying to learn this whole buggy discipline the last couple years and it really hasn't come together until this last time I was out. I guess I haven't put much effort into learning until now either, so that's a big part of it. Everything just seemed to come together this time and I got a couple hrs of time in on the bug. My sides were a little tender the next few days from the rails on my buggy. Do you guys get sore sides from riding your buggy?

https://youtu.be/8HFmSnllVgs

ssayre - 22-4-2015 at 05:03 PM

Nice man, that access looked very well behaved for decent wind which I would guess was somewhat gusty. I don't notice my sides hurting from the rails but sometimes the harness will get me. Was that a roller coaster in the background?

3shot - 22-4-2015 at 05:36 PM

What a great video Cheddar!!
Nice and steady riding.
Pretty sweet field too!!

Cheddarhead - 22-4-2015 at 05:44 PM

Thanks ssayre. That particular field borders the water (Green Bay) and has pretty good wind when it's a north wind. Unfortunately our prevailing winds are west or some form of west. Field runs east and west so most of our winds don't favor that field the "long way". It's too bad because it's the largest place I can find to buggy (so far);)
Yes that was a small wooden roller coaster in the background. This field borders a small park with rides. Mainly rides for little kids, but two years ago the city put in a small rollercoaster. I believe the city has plans to expand the amusement park which will cut into my buggy area:mad::evil: I'm always looking for better places to ride.

Cheddarhead - 22-4-2015 at 05:50 PM

Not sure why all my video's on youtube default to 360p? Must be a youtube thing:evil: I tried to change my settings from my account but it still always wants to defaut to 360p. I realize it can be changed on the video during playback but it still is rather annoying. Grrr...

soliver - 22-4-2015 at 05:51 PM

Looked great!... glad you figured it out!!!

3shot - 22-4-2015 at 05:53 PM

That is my favorite Ozone color too!!:cool:

1oldkid - 22-4-2015 at 09:31 PM

Looks like it was a great day, nice vid!

markite - 22-4-2015 at 11:40 PM

that's a decent field length, you were running a good 45 seconds straight before needing to turn. For the hip thing it depends on the kite and harness for one and the type of buggy and side rail position relative to your seat.
If you have a fixed bridle kite and riding loaded it's harder to ease off on pressure pulling you into that siderail sometimes unless you go down a size in kite or change your angle of travel to take the pressure off. Also if you have a harness with a higher hook you can a lot more torque and feel twisted more often. If you have a buggy with a low side rail you will have more rail contact than a deeper seat.
Some easy solutions are to get a foam pad to stick in the sides of the seat to give you some buffer or if I'm riding really powered up on a longer run I turn my hips a bit to raise my hip slightly on the downwind side so you you are leaning away from the kite and getting a little more cheek toward the outside rather than hip bone.

Another thing that isn't really isn't early hip related but more about reaching out on the bar and twisting your upper body and holding higher bar pressure. Sometimes I find I might be riding in higher wind and maybe going slightly upwind or in a direction that the sweet spot for good power might be puling in the bar 2/3 of the way and then holding it there and my arms are stretched out just a bit further holding that sweet spot and there is probably going to be some good bar pressure there as well. At times like that I find it more comfortable to depower the kite just a touch so that the sweet spot is now closer to the bar all the way in and now my arms are at a slightly better angle for holding that higher bar pressure in closer to me without getting the twisting and reaching feeling - so slight tweaks on your trim adjustment helps if you find yourself putting two hands on the bar and then taking one off once in a while just because you feel twisted and it changes your body angle and arm reach just a touch. There are times when many of us will ride one hand on the bar and wrap your other arm around the side rail leaning away from the kite - I do that quite often when the kite is locked in and not squirrely winds that I would need two hand control as often.

RedSky - 23-4-2015 at 07:39 AM

Great tune, Mark Knopfler. Nice field. Foot tapping goodness throughout. :thumbup:

robinsonpr - 23-4-2015 at 07:54 AM

Awesome!!. Looks like that kite is very well behaved, which year Access is it? I'm considering an Access 6m as there have been quite a few days where I haven't flown because of slightly higher winds. My Peak 6m is a bit lively in winds over 20mph, and my smallest arc is a 13m Venom. That may well handle 25-30mph with no issues but unrolling that amount of ripstop in 25mph scares the cr*p outta me!

PHREERIDER - 23-4-2015 at 08:16 AM

good riding man! set up has alot of range i bet!

Cheddarhead - 23-4-2015 at 10:10 AM

Thanks for the Kudos guys:bigok: Thanks for your input Mark! My buggy is modeled after the Ivanpah. It has higher side rails that come up to just below my ribs. I built it myself, so I custom fit it for my own body width. Very snug/secure, very wide and long because I'm 6' 5". It fits like a glove. Soreness I experienced was on my lower rib edges. I found out very quickly that grass fields require LOTS of power to get going and stay going. In order to go upwind on a highly resistive surface I feel like I have to have a lot of power and speed going to achieve it. This seems to equate to being pulled against the rails with a lot of force during your runs. I can't imagine how easy it must be to buggy on a dry lake bed with little to no rolling resistance:o I've flipped my buggy twice now on grass, mainly because I was positioned wrong and caught off guard during a wind gust:evil: I chalk it up to inexperience, lol.

robinsonpr - I believe my Access XT is a 2010/11 model? Not quite sure. Which ever year Ozone went without the clam cleat on the trim. I actually put a different bar on this kite so now it has a trim strap to depower along with the bar throw. Before you were strickly at the mercy of the bar throw. I can't say enough good things about the 6m Access. Extremely stable zippy kite with a huge wind range. That day in the video I was completely trimmed out, meaning I could have handled a ton more wind and been fine. Feyd says that the newest version of the Access is even better.....can't imagine.

ssayre - 23-4-2015 at 02:29 PM


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In order to go upwind on a highly resistive surface I feel like I have to have a lot of power and speed going to achieve it. This seems to equate to being pulled against the rails with a lot of force during your runs. I can't imagine how easy it must be to buggy on a dry lake bed with little to no rolling resistance:o


Yes exactly. High rolling resistance and inconsistent wind are my normal conditions (in the buggy). My parking lots must be like your frozen lakes are to you. Smooth surface just makes everything work so much more smoothly with less power. I use a compacted gravel lot that's my absolute favorite but the trade off is I have to use shorter lines.

WELDNGOD - 23-4-2015 at 03:55 PM

Cheddar , Ivanpah buggies are known to bruise ribs. It's the high siderails. That is why mine don't go that high. Under serious side loading, I lean hard to the other side . No bruised ribs. When riding w/ a strop, I don't even have to lean.

Cheddarhead - 23-4-2015 at 04:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD  
Cheddar , Ivanpah buggies are known to bruise ribs. It's the high siderails. That is why mine don't go that high. Under serious side loading, I lean hard to the other side . No bruised ribs. When riding w/ a strop, I don't even have to lean.


Thanks for the tips! Perhaps a little more padding or a couple more cheeseburgers would help:D