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light wind skill building

ssayre - 29-11-2015 at 03:54 PM

I haven't had the opportunity to really give my 9m peak a thorough test in my target winds for the kite. Today wind was light and fairly consistent. We've had rain so wind was a little too light to traverse the wet ground very well. It worked but it was more work than fun. Luckily I have a paved road I can use that borders the grass. I only had a 100 yards or so of pavement to use given the wind direction. It's too narrow to complete a turn so I would use the grass on the upwind side of the pavement then complete the turn. Wind was very light so about the time I would get going again on the pavement after a turn, I would have to start to turn again. I kept at it somehow knowing that I had the wind to make faster runs. I changed the way I normally hold the bar by having one hand maintaining bar position in and out and one hand on the end that did all the steering. I figured out that I had to plan my turns in advance and start turning the kite before leaving the asphalt, then use my momentum to make the turn in the grass and make it back to the asphalt before or at same time as I dipped the kite back into the power zone after the transition so as to keep momentum. Success, those little changes in kite and buggy piloting made all the difference in wanting to give up for the day and having a fun session for next hour and half. Wind never changed, but my piloting did. It was kind of one of those aha moments that seem to come fewer and further between the longer you've been kiting. I hadn't been in the buggy for probably a month and a half so I'm trying to capitalize on days I can make it out. Kind of recharges the batteries when you discover something new or are able to make the most out of a spot and wind conditions. Although, I am getting a little tired of learning about low wind. :rolleyes:

soliver - 29-11-2015 at 05:12 PM

Yeah, I've had a lot of those kind of days, where the wind is light and you just have to reprogram yourself to make those changes to make it work... for me though if I have a lot of those light wind days I get stuck in those light wind motions and have to reprogram myself for the stronger winds... great read Sean,... good on you for your AHA moment!

PHREERIDER - 29-11-2015 at 05:19 PM

every little bit helps! the net is small, but used effectively puts you motion! nice man. only time gives up the secrets YOU need.

bigkid - 29-11-2015 at 06:05 PM

Keep at it, having to plan your turns develops skills many other will not be able to have.
This is the idea behind having a quiver of kites,(the same make and model in all the sizes made) it gives you the ability to fly the same kite in any wind. Zero to Nuking high winds with the only thing changing is the size of the kite, all other aspects remain the same.
Anybody can buggy in strong winds, not everyone can buggy in zero to light winds. :thumbup:

Feyd - 29-11-2015 at 06:49 PM

2nd Bigkid. Light wind flying builds crazy good handling skills in a short period of time. And you'll feel like a damn rockstar in normal winds.

ssayre - 30-11-2015 at 11:03 AM

Thanks guys. Recorded weather data for the day showed plus or minus 8 mph. All it took was to carry enough momentum through turns to get apparent wind kicking in and I was set. Luckily wind direction was dead on the section of asphalt I was using so runs back and forth were equally as good. I could get going fast enough to pull off some great slides in the wet grass. However, if I wasted momentum on a slide, I would pay for it by having to make a slow run to the next transition or 2 to build back up.

Windstruck - 30-11-2015 at 12:14 PM

Sean - I'm completely tracking with you about having had plenty (read: too much) low wind practice, but the guys are right, this is where you build so many good skills. Plus, I sort of like having problems like the one you describe to tackle. It's not often that one gets a chance to work a problem again and again, refining things as you go along and having, as you said, AHA moments along the way!

You'll spend all this time sweating the finesse stuff in your janky conditions and then strut like the head rooster when you get wide open spaces!

I have a couple of spots where I buggy that have "problems" and I love them. One is a small steep grass slope nestled between a set of built-into-the-hill bleachers and a concrete retaining wall. When the wind is right I can make my turn on this pitch. Pretty low margin of error for both the buggy and the kite. You can see this here starting at about 35 seconds:



Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
I haven't had the opportunity to really give my 9m peak a thorough test in my target winds for the kite. Today wind was light and fairly consistent. We've had rain so wind was a little too light to traverse the wet ground very well. It worked but it was more work than fun. Luckily I have a paved road I can use that borders the grass. I only had a 100 yards or so of pavement to use given the wind direction. It's too narrow to complete a turn so I would use the grass on the upwind side of the pavement then complete the turn. Wind was very light so about the time I would get going again on the pavement after a turn, I would have to start to turn again. I kept at it somehow knowing that I had the wind to make faster runs. I changed the way I normally hold the bar by having one hand maintaining bar position in and out and one hand on the end that did all the steering. I figured out that I had to plan my turns in advance and start turning the kite before leaving the asphalt, then use my momentum to make the turn in the grass and make it back to the asphalt before or at same time as I dipped the kite back into the power zone after the transition so as to keep momentum. Success, those little changes in kite and buggy piloting made all the difference in wanting to give up for the day and having a fun session for next hour and half. Wind never changed, but my piloting did. It was kind of one of those aha moments that seem to come fewer and further between the longer you've been kiting. I hadn't been in the buggy for probably a month and a half so I'm trying to capitalize on days I can make it out. Kind of recharges the batteries when you discover something new or are able to make the most out of a spot and wind conditions. Although, I am getting a little tired of learning about low wind. :rolleyes:

3shot - 30-11-2015 at 03:12 PM

Good read Sean. Man just wait till you get to a spot thats like 5 miles long (JIBE hint-hint)!! All the hard work pays off. The janky and lufty inland wind will test a mans kiting soul. Its kinda nervy sending the kite one direction while your still going the other. For me anyway...:thumbup:

RonH - 30-11-2015 at 05:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
Thanks guys. Recorded weather data for the day showed plus or minus 8 mph.


That's a good wind day for us...

Demoknight - 1-12-2015 at 09:18 AM

Sean. Go to Jekyll with us next year. It is going to change your life.

shehatesmyhobbies - 1-12-2015 at 02:47 PM

Good stuff, as most have said, low wind days can bring out the best in you and your skills!

Ron wasn't kidding! We talked about the difference between east and west coast while I was at SOBB, biggest difference for me was seeing all the huge FB kites they all had. If you haven't seen a 14m combat or 16m Vapor flying, you are missing out! Graceful to say the least!

3shot - 1-12-2015 at 03:34 PM

Agreed Rich. Watching Markite going miles down the beach on his 11m FB Crosskite was awe inspiring. I tried his and failed, but I tried...

WELDNGOD - 2-12-2015 at 09:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 3shot  
Good read Sean. Man just wait till you get to a spot thats like 5 miles long (JIBE hint-hint)!! All the hard work pays off. The janky and lufty inland wind will test a mans kiting soul. Its kinda nervy sending the kite one direction while your still going the other. For me anyway...:thumbup:


When are ya going to Wildwood Bro?

3shot - 4-12-2015 at 05:00 AM

It is on the list Donnie! Just haven't made it there yet.