Power Kite Forum - New kite advice please

New kite advice please

r1ch - 21-5-2016 at 02:48 PM

Been lurking for a while and thought it was beyond time to actually join in I have been into kites for a long time now but never managed to get a serious power kite yet, I have had a radsail 1.8 for a while and thoroughly enjoy it but wanting to move up a bit now, I won't be boarding or anything and unfortunately I'm on a bit of a tight budget, have been looking around and thinking of the HQ rush v pro trainer 300. Like I say not wanting to board or anything like that, just wanting something to challenge me a bit and pull me about a bit more than the radsail

Thanks in advance
Rich

riffclown - 21-5-2016 at 04:14 PM

Give this thread a read..
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=28759&p...

I'd suggest you look at a 4line 2-3M fixed bridle instead of a bar at first.. ESPECIALLY if you're mostly static fly.. Keep in mind your Radsail if I'm not mistaken is a sport size so even a 2M powerkite is going to be a significant size increase for you.. Hopefully one of us is near you and could let you fly before you buy..

Here a sport size 2.2 Symphony (Blue) on top of a 4M Crossfire.. Here's also a 2M Crossfire (Yellow) on the same 4M kite.. As you can see, despite the "numbers" the 2M Powerkite is a much bigger and read more powerful kite.

abkayak - 21-5-2016 at 07:41 PM

4 line w/ handles will keep you happier longer...3m is a great size and w/ a broad wind range
welcome aboard!

Bladerunner - 21-5-2016 at 07:52 PM

If money is an issue then you want to consider second hand kites. New kites drop in value as soon as they hit your door step.

Shop the for sale section of reputable forums. Ebay and the like can hold some deals but also some rip offs. AVOID IMPULSE BUYING!!!! Run your choice through folks on here 1st if you go that route.

Blitzhound - 21-5-2016 at 08:06 PM

My first 4 line was a 5m HQ Beamer. Looking back I think I would have gone smaller. 2-3m Probably would stay with the Beamer line. I really like them. I have flown 3,4,5m and they're all great. The Peter Lynn Hornet is another excellent option. A 3m hornet will probably have a place in your kite quiver for the rest of your flying days. Another good one IMO is the HQ Alpha.They're are an excellent choice for the budget minded. And they have very good flight characteristics.
I have never flown one myself but the Flexifoil Rage seems to be a very popular choice on here. Whatever you end up choosing I would keep it under 3m and I have to agree with abkayak. I think you're going to like the 4 line on handles much more then a bar. Although there is the Prism Tensor. While there not cheap. They can be flown on a bar or handles. I fact the bar it comes with breaks down and converts to 4 line handles. And there great kites. They pull really hard. Just my two cents. Happy flying and welcome!

Brant - 21-5-2016 at 08:48 PM

I would also steer you the way of a four line kite on handles. I started on a three line trainer on a bar then went straight to depowers. I just recently acquired a fixed bridle for static flying and it's way more fun to play around with when I can't board. In my case the only time I fly my depowers static is when I need the practice. No one has yet mentioned that depowers just don't ever seem to fly quite right until you're in motion, at least not in my experience anyways. Good luck with whatever you choose. Welcome to the addiction!

brockrock1000 - 21-5-2016 at 10:10 PM

Hi Rich, and welcome! I too am new here and new to Power Kiting as of the last couple of months, so I do not have the experience or knowledge of these other members.

This new interest/hobby of mine started with a two-line Prism sports kite and then morphed into static Power Kiting for a bit more thrill and exercise. So far, I have only flown the Flexifoil Rage and Sting kites. The Rage kites are available on Amazon in sizes: 1.8m, 2.5m, 3.5m, & 4.7m. They are sold kite only, so you also need to purchase handles and line sets which are available there also in the Flexifoil "store". I now own all of the Rage kites, as well as the Flexifoil Sting 3.3m.

I bought the Sting 3.3 because - due to its slightly wider shape - it is a bit more forgivable to fly than a Rage, and at the time, I only had the Rage 2.5. On fairly windy days (10+ KTS), the Rage 2.5 was way too much for me, so enter the Sting 3.3. Now, two months or so later, my Sting is only flown by others who I wish to introduce to the sport, and I fly my Rages with abandon. In two months, I have learned a lot, and because of info I obtained on this forum, I was always respectful of the often sudden power that these kites can generate, and the possibility of being very hurt by it.

If you are on a bit of a budget - which I can fully understand - I would start with the Sting 3.3m which comes with lines and handles. You can learn a lot with this well made kite. I would suggest that you get a better set of handles for it versus what comes with it (I'd suggest the Flexifoil Prolink handles), and after a bit of flying, you will be ready for an upgrade.

Regardless of what you choose, be respectful of the power of these kites, and let us know how you make out.

rtz - 21-5-2016 at 10:47 PM

Good deal on the Sting 3.3 right now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00R38BEK2/ref=dp_olp...

Pansh 50% off sale right now(price shown after added to cart). I had to pick up a 4m Flux after being so impressed by the 3m. Such a smooth flying kite and not bad for the price.

http://www.panshkite.com/index.php?gOo=goods_search_list.dwt...

Anyone craving a new kite right now; check out the Flux.

r1ch - 22-5-2016 at 12:54 AM

Thanks a lot guys I really appreciate the advice! I honestly think I was a little bit scared of the 4 lines because of the possibilities of tangling (you should see me fishing) but after a few YouTube sessions it looks like a Beamer for me! Slightly out of my price range but have seen a couple of second hand ones so might take that advice too! Seen a 3m and a 4m thinking of the 4 because it's going to be my only kite for quite a while so don't want to wish I went bigger!

Rich

abkayak - 22-5-2016 at 04:51 AM

Most new to this worry that they will go to small and not have enough kite to keep their
interest and what's 1m? Many times it's the difference between having the nerve to launch or
more importantly being safe to fly...go 3m if your under 200# and you will fly more often..imo

riffclown - 22-5-2016 at 05:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Thanks a lot guys I really appreciate the advice! I honestly think I was a little bit scared of the 4 lines because of the possibilities of tangling (you should see me fishing) but after a few YouTube sessions it looks like a Beamer for me! Slightly out of my price range but have seen a couple of second hand ones so might take that advice too! Seen a 3m and a 4m thinking of the 4 because it's going to be my only kite for quite a while so don't want to wish I went bigger!

Rich

I'm sure you're thinking Sport Kite size from your radsail instead of Square meters... PLEASE stick with 2-3M.. $m is a lot of kite for a first taste of real powerkiting especially if you are thinking static. If you but only a 4M then you will spend a lot of time not flying because of the conditions..

Here's a 4M Crossfire being art the rogallo f4estival a few years back..stop it at 3 to 4 sec.. The Red kite is a 4M Crossfire.. The
Lime/Gray kite is a Felxifoil Bullet 2.5. (Predecessor to the Rage..)
In this poarticular case the Cr5ossfire is being used for scudding and the rage is being flown static as well..The person flyinf the Crossfire is a Pro in anyone's eyes here.. The person flying the Bullet is a good friend of mine and tthis was his first time with that kite out in good beach wind..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feJBAfaDekw
He still owns that kite AND hasn't considered another yet.. I'm holding the 4.5 Bullet that in my Avatar in case he changes his mind.. It's been a few years now and he's quite happy with the 2.5

HQ Beamers are great, PL Hornets are as well. Flexifoil Rage comes in the between size and will not disappoint.

WELDNGOD - 22-5-2016 at 07:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

I won't be boarding or anything

YEAH RIGHT! :lol:

Tht's funny right there. I bet a dollar to a doughnut that you will. LOL
But seriously,get a 3m Beamer,rage/bullet,buster soulfly or some other lower aspect ratio kite and learn to fly it well. A 3m kite can fly in a large range of winds.
Trust us,this is who we are, and this is what we do!

Windstruck - 22-5-2016 at 07:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Seen a 3m and a 4m thinking of the 4 because it's going to be my only kite for quite a while so don't want to wish I went bigger!

Gotta weigh in here and also strongly advise going 3m instead of 4m. Another point beyond the (excellent and spot on) comments already made is how the 3m will perform in the sky versus the 4m. The 3m will be so much more lively and interesting to fly, and as such will dramatically drive you to improve your skill set.

One way to look at this is to think about that the 4m is 1/3 larger than the 3m. While somebody on this forum could surely provide the precise answer, the relationships of size changes to pull and liveliness in the air are not in one-to-one proportionality. Not sure if it is a simple quadratic (squared) function but there is a BIG difference between a 4m and 3m FB kite in the same lineage (e.g., 3m Hornet vs 4m Hornet).

If you buy a 3m FB there will be many days that you thank yourself, far more days that you wished that you had bought the 2m, and far fewer days that you wished you went with the 4m.

The guys that have chimed in above have been doing this a long time and really know what they are talking about. I joined PKF last year and am SO THANKFUL for all the great advice I have received from these veterans of this wonderful sport. :cool:

Blitzhound - 22-5-2016 at 07:52 AM

Just to chime in one more time to reiterate what I was saying about going with something in the 2-3m range. I'm 6'8" 310lbs. There have been a number of times when I was firs flying that I made mistakes and had my 5m Beamer life me off the ground into the air...several feet into the air. More often then not I found myself wishing I had gone smaller. In fact my next kite purchase was a used 3m followed by a 1.5m do you see a pattern here? Haha! I'm glad to see you enjoy the sport so much. Learn from my mistakes.

Just to give you an idea of what a 3m can do. I was out in my buggy a few weeks ago and made a few mistakes with my 3m HQ Toxic in about 25-30mph winds. It lifted me completely out of the buggy. I'm a big man at 310lbs. I was pretty impressed with the shear power of such a small kite. I can almost promise you that you won't be disappointed with a 3m In which ever flavor you choose.

r1ch - 22-5-2016 at 08:35 AM

Well it looks like I now own a 3m Beamer IV it's used but looks in good condition as far as you can tell on eBay! Can't wait for it to arrive now! Looks like I'm going to need some pointers on flying 4 lines soon! :D

Thanks again!

Rich

abkayak - 22-5-2016 at 09:04 AM

Good move :thumbup:

..used kite purchasing is addicting btw

Blitzhound - 22-5-2016 at 09:36 AM

Very excellent choice my friend. Your gonna like the Beamer. Still my favorite.

Yeah used kite buying is addicting. I may have to go to meetings soon. Haha!

WELCOME to the addiction.

I don't know where you are in the world...but feel free to give a shout out on the forums here and If anyone is near you I'm sure most anyone on here would be happy to set up a play date. Happy flying!

r1ch - 23-5-2016 at 04:42 AM

Well it looks like I bought the 4m one too! Put a cheeky bid in thinking someone would outbid me and they didn't:o, oh well suppose I could re sell the 4m

Rich

Windstruck - 23-5-2016 at 05:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Well it looks like I bought the 4m one too! Put a cheeky bid in thinking someone would outbid me and they didn't:o, oh well suppose I could re sell the 4m

Rich

No crime in starting a quiver! Don't say we didn't warn you... :evil:

r1ch - 23-5-2016 at 05:38 AM

Hahahaha yeah to be honest I got both for the price of a brand new 3m Beamer so quite happy, but don't think the wife is

oh well looks like it's time to put the quadcopter on eBay and recoup some money

Rich

abkayak - 23-5-2016 at 06:04 AM

dont be a seller...always be a buyer, your doing great

ssayre - 23-5-2016 at 06:20 AM

Yeah man, you won't regret that 4 meter size. Very under rated size in my opinion.

For my local wind, the 4 meter was my favorite size for static. Your next purchase, look for something with a little more zing. Maybe mid ar. Use these for awhile then sell. I'm a big fan of trying as many different types of kites you can to start off with until you find your style. If on a budget, this only works buying and selling 2nd hand. Some of us have to sell once in awhile unlike abkayak

Windstruck - 23-5-2016 at 08:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by abkayak

dont be a seller...always be a buyer, your doing great

Aiding and abetting! :evil:

ssayre - 23-5-2016 at 09:19 AM

I view the 4m size as the inland fat kid's 3m. 3m just didn't have quite enough low end even on the windy days on my fields with thick grass. Take some of the rolling resistance away, and 3m would work often where I'm at.

abkayak - 23-5-2016 at 10:19 AM

all you newbs pay attention this is how you do it...buy the snot outa every kite you can find, and then figure out how to fly them...so USMC
of course this does not apply to NYCL kites...those are mine

ssayre - 23-5-2016 at 11:56 AM

^^ he is right though. I haven't sold a kite that I didn't regret a little bit. In fact a lot of kites end up back in one of the original owners hands at some point. I know where all of my previous kites are except maybe 1.

Bladerunner - 23-5-2016 at 01:12 PM

I swore you told me that you got a 3m and 4m so you can share this new sport with the wife.

Now go tell her what a thoughtful guy you are! :thumbup:

Here are some pointers for getting started:

Hold the handles with your pointer finger above the top lines.
Try and avoid any brake input at 1st and just fly off the front lines. Add brake input once you feel comfortable flying 2 line.
If the kite won't fly overhead ( zenith ) and stay there with decent wind then your brake lines are too short.
If the kite spins, the brake on that side is effecting the kite.
Don't try and FLY the kite all over the place at 1st. ( most beginners do ) Try and CONTROL the kite! Anticipating the next move and starting it early enough to be effective ...
Park your kite using a kite stake and brake lines tight.
Pack your kite and lines carefully to avoid agro'. NEVER allow your handles to get near your bridle!

riffclown - 23-5-2016 at 01:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Well it looks like I bought the 4m one too! Put a cheeky bid in thinking someone would outbid me and they didn't:o, oh well suppose I could re sell the 4m

Rich

Wow, that was fast.. Most of us are on our 5th, 6th or 16th kite before making the "I bought 2 by accident" excuse.. Beamers are great kite all around to use AND especially user friendly to learn on..

r1ch - 24-5-2016 at 06:08 AM

Well the 3m arrived today! Not much wind so didn't get it up for long but when she was in the air was very stable and strong! Can't wait for a better day!

Rich

r1ch - 24-5-2016 at 04:08 PM

Went out again tonight and she well and truly kicked my butt! Dragged me all over the place before I could get up to the zenith! Landed me literally on my face, soon learned that adrenaline does not agree with common sense, I knew to let the kite killers do the work but my brain wouldn't let go of the handles! Steep learning curve today and possibly a black eye! But I did carry on flying and gor her up above and flying well eventually!

Rich

Bladerunner - 24-5-2016 at 05:32 PM

OUCH!

Set your brake lines at the farthest knot from the handle then move them closer as needed. Having them hang a bit loose at 1st won't be a bad thing. It will help you avoid unwanted brake input. Once you are comfortable 2 line set the brakes so they have a slight arc when not in play but are tight enough to back the kite down.

Windstruck - 24-5-2016 at 05:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Went out again tonight and she well and truly kicked my butt! Dragged me all over the place before I could get up to the zenith! Landed me literally on my face, soon learned that adrenaline does not agree with common sense, I knew to let the kite killers do the work but my brain wouldn't let go of the handles! Steep learning curve today and possibly a black eye! But I did carry on flying and gor her up above and flying well eventually!

Rich

Welcome to powerkiting! The 3m vs 4m advice has a slightly different ring to it now, doesn't it? I'm not poking fun at you; Lord knows I was there as were doubtlessly so many of us.

Somebody needs to do this, so l'll step up on behalf of the PKF family and post one of our all time classic short videos:

This acrobatic "Superman" start (and rapid conclusion) to a powerkiting session is referred to as a "hot launch". By now I'm sure you can appreciate the vernacular of that expression. Bladerunner is providing you great advice and I won't attempt to encroach on his superb coaching, not to mention that he has FAR more experience than me. What I will say is you could do well to learn how to launch a kite from more of the side of the wind window than directly downwind which will rocket the kite vertically right through the meat of the window under brisk conditions, aka hot launching. Next up is the helmet advice.

abkayak - 24-5-2016 at 05:49 PM

This is making me warm all over...it was great right?...Nothing like this sport :thumbup:

I really hope it's blowing tomorrow...take a breath and realize your gonna dominate that kite
Ohhh coastalwindsports.com and read up...watch utube launch and land vids..it all helps a lot
I'm so excited right now

WELDNGOD - 24-5-2016 at 07:01 PM

HOT LAUNCH! Oh hells yes! Whenever I can... 0 to 20 in 20 ft.!!
:karate:

rtz - 24-5-2016 at 08:36 PM

One of my favorite videos:

Windstruck - 24-5-2016 at 10:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rtz

One of my favorite videos:

Stupid is as stupid does.

Windstruck - 24-5-2016 at 10:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by WELDNGOD

HOT LAUNCH! Oh hells yes! Whenever I can... 0 to 20 in 20 ft.!!
:karate:

I gots to agree. I hot launch almost exclusively. I was just throwing New Guy a friendly bone to save his face some beating at first. :frog:

brockrock1000 - 25-5-2016 at 03:54 AM

The first time that I attempted to fly my Rage 2.5 (which was my first time flying a Power Kite), the winds were in the realm of 15-20 KTS. I knew better from advice that I had gained by reading and watching videos, but I just had to fly it.

So up it went directly downwind, and then a right turn resulted in me being dragged to the right while not squarely facing the kite. This caused my right ankle to twist resulting in a moderate sprain. At no point during this brief session did I have any control over the kite whatsoever.

Still undaunted, I decided to relaunch, and up the kite went again. I think it was a bit confounded as to why I had not learned my lesson the first flight, and this time, the kite decided to pull me right over onto my face.

In a way, I am glad for having experienced the above foibles with the kite. I was not hurt beyond a couple of days with a sore ankle, and I learned a very valuable, 'hands on' lesson. Also, as I have introduced others to the sport since then, my first experience has caused me to be very conservative in this regard. It is one thing to use bad judgement yourself, as I did the first time, and quite another to use bad judgement when the handles are in someone else's hands for the first time...

abkayak - 25-5-2016 at 05:30 AM

my 2nd kite was the 4.9 blade...promised the guy that sold me it i wouldn't put it up that day cause it was blowing 20 and id be smarter than that...had 2 8sec sessions but lived
you must have total respect for the kite because they never respect you...btw pretty shore i have a torn bicep from 6 weeks ago from that blade...that beating was insane but
still flying right thru it...cant bring myself to miss a decent blow, i hope you have a great time today, waiting for your next post is killing me

r1ch, we want to fly w/ you or at least watch...where are you at?

r1ch - 25-5-2016 at 04:42 PM

Thanks for the advice guys! Yeah the confidence has taken a battering but like I said I knew I needed to get the kite up again straight away! I could really use someone to fly with me but unfortunately I'm in the uk! Gonna hit YouTube and try to work out where I went wrong apart from not letting the killers do the work! All advice will be received and listened to I really appreciate the help! And yes feel free to take the mickey too! I can take it I promise

Rich

Bladerunner - 25-5-2016 at 07:54 PM

You understand that the kite produces minimal power at the edges of the window ? If not search wind window.

Re-read my previous points. Avoid brake input at 1st etc..

Try and AVOID the power zone at 1st. CONTROL the kite at the edges of the window until you are responding by reflex memory. Then start flying it through the power zone. Once you are doing that without thinking too much you can start to play with brake input.

Speed = Power. Don't fly the kite fast at 1st. The kite sees apparent winds when you do that.

Search " side launch " as a method of launching in strong winds with minimal pull. Hot launching ( straight down wind ) in high winds isn't a good idea at 1st.

WELDNGOD - 25-5-2016 at 08:01 PM

You are in a bigger kiting community than he US. There
has to be someone within 50Km of you,and a great spot to fly. This sport is way bigger across the pond. Glad only your pride got hurt,it's just like we try to tell people.It's alot more power than you think. Wind and kites power is quantitive not linear. I bet you get tired of just static flying and buy/build a buggy/board within a year . :ninja:

r1ch - 29-5-2016 at 03:16 PM

Today's update, the 4m arrived the other day, opened the bag and the handles had been left attached and the line wound around them which I know is ok, but they were tangled in the bridle, so I had to wait until I could lay everything out and untangle it! Took us about an hour but got it sorted and had a damn good maiden flight! In fact my daughter flew her for longer than I did, very stable and a little bit slower than the 3m one! Overall very happy with both kites if still a little bit scared!

Rich

riffclown - 29-5-2016 at 05:55 PM

The hook is now set.. welcome to our world!!!

r1ch - 29-5-2016 at 06:59 PM

It certainly is! And I can't thank you all enough for the advice! Every time I come on here I read something else that I need to know! Like today the kite flew over and behind me, obviously then collapsing and coming down (which just happened to be the only flying my daughter filmed) now I know I should have used the brakes and pulled it back a bit, so glad I joined, there doesn't seem to be a decent active forum over here unfortunately!

Rich

brockrock1000 - 30-5-2016 at 09:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Overall very happy with both kites if still a little bit scared!

And there you have it! In my opinion, this is what sets that hook.

I think when many people imagine the idea of kiting, it conjures up the image of a young child standing in front of that colorful, cardboard display in 7-Eleven during a brief soda and sunscreen stop while headed for a nice family beach day.

"Daddy, can we get a kite?"
"Sure", says Daddy, "That will be fun."

But it isn't fun...well, maybe a little fun - if they are able to get the cheaply made thing to even fly - and soon the kite finds it way back into the beach bag never to be flown again.

Power Kiting however - at first - seems to be like 'breaking' a wild stallion. It is unpredictable, dangerous, and as such, it can hurt you very badly. Once the wild stallion is 'broken' though, one begins to realize that there are many things that can be done with it. It still needs to be respected for its strength, but it's the control of this strength that makes it very useful and interesting.

I say, cherish that "scared" feeling, even if it's only just a little bit there in the background. If it totally goes away, many of us would probably loose our strong interest in this hobby...

abkayak - 30-5-2016 at 12:28 PM

If you don't run into and remain scared...your doing it wrong

Bladerunner - 30-5-2016 at 04:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by brockrock1000

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Power Kiting however - at first - seems to be like 'breaking' a wild stallion. It is unpredictable, dangerous, and as such, it can hurt you very badly. Once the wild stallion is 'broken' though, one begins to realize that there are many things that can be done with it. It still needs to be respected for its strength, but it's the control of this strength that makes it very useful and interesting.

I say, cherish that "scared" feeling, even if it's only just a little bit there in the background. If it totally goes away, many of us would probably loose our strong interest in this hobby...

Flash Austin used this same analogy in the 1st Red Bull King of the Air video. He does so holding down a wild old early generation inflato. It really drives the point home. It played a HOOJ part in turning me on to the sport.

I miss the good old days when I would be driving to a session and the hair was standing up on my arms. I wasn't sure if I was scared or excited but I KNEW I was living! I don't get that rush on my way out very often anymore.

Another option to avoid over fly is to turn the kite a bit before it overshoots the edge.

r1ch - 31-5-2016 at 04:44 AM

Well apparently I damaged my shoulder rotator cuff in the fall so don't think I will be flying this week so lots of YouTube research going to be done! Although the doctor did say no lifting! Is flying lifting

Rich

WELDNGOD - 31-5-2016 at 06:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by brockrock1000

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Overall very happy with both kites if still a little bit scared!

The "stallion " is you Grasshopper... You must not fight yourself. Finesse is your key to success. When you learn to drive ,is when the kite will become alive. :ninja:

brockrock1000 - 31-5-2016 at 12:28 PM

Too true! And slowly, it is happening.

Rich, take some time off and fully heal. This is a long term game, and you don't need a persistent injury that keeps you on the sidelines...

ssayre - 31-5-2016 at 12:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by r1ch

Well apparently I damaged my shoulder rotator cuff in the fall so don't think I will be flying this week so lots of YouTube research going to be done! Although the doctor did say no lifting! Is flying lifting

Rich

maybe a good time to try a depower. you don't need your shoulder for that :eureka:

r1ch - 31-5-2016 at 01:14 PM

Oooooo depower! Another kite to invest in

riffclown - 31-5-2016 at 02:42 PM

So for the record, do you understand why we recommend a 2-3M fixed bridle as a first true power kite?? What would you recommend now that you've flown a bit??

r1ch - 31-5-2016 at 04:57 PM

Yeah the advice was bang on! I think my problem was letting go of the handles and letting the killers do the work! Everything in your brain screams not to let go! It's not natural, until you have done it! The first thing I made my daughter do when she flew the other day is let the handles go and learn how it acts! I'm just glad I asked for the advice! Things could have been way worse!

Oh and I have found a local flying group who meet on a Thursday! So going up this week hopefully to watch and learn

Rich

riffclown - 31-5-2016 at 05:38 PM

Awesome, welcome officially to the addiction, get well, fly safe and strongly consider a helmet.. The skull is no match for an ill timed wind gust.

WELDNGOD - 31-5-2016 at 06:57 PM

Yes sir! Armor up! :thumbup:

abkayak - 1-6-2016 at 05:54 AM

for the record im not for having ones daughter hooked in to kite killers...would rather chase the kite
at least when its blowing proper

ssayre - 1-6-2016 at 06:01 AM

What he said ^^

:thumbup: