dgkid78 - 23-7-2008 at 04:19 PM
I was wondering if someone can clue me in why my Montana comes with 595lbs strength lines? does it produce that much force because it's a depower?
Whats the difference in standard lines that comes with power kites on handles. I think 295lbs correct me if i am wrong (on my crossfire) ? other than
strength. I am a pretty light guy 140lbs. any reason why i couldn't put those on my depower?? or is that just not safe?
speleopower - 23-7-2008 at 04:45 PM
No reason not to use the lighter line. I've been flying with 300 pound test Quadrifoil Q-Powerline for near 10 years now with only one line break
back in 2000. Lighter line means the kite will fly a lot better. When you double the crosssection of a round object you quadruple the drag.
Good luck-Scott
B-Roc - 23-7-2008 at 05:23 PM
I fly a lot on 300 over 150 myself and I weigh 145. That being said though, if you are riding or rolling on anything and then jump, much like a
fighter pilot experiences Gforce, so will your kite lines. I believe I've read that based on your angle to the kite at the time of lift off, you
exert anywhere from 2- 3 times your body weight, in force, on the lines.
buggy racers usually go light (300) to reduce drag but those on aggressive / lifty kites usually have 500 - 600+ on the power lines to address with
the force exersion factor.
Depower kites are commonly set up on 600 all around as the force on the brake lines is different (equal) on them as opposed to fixed bridle kites.
_____ - 23-7-2008 at 06:11 PM
So is the combo of 500/300 too heave for my 5m Ace?
B-Roc - 23-7-2008 at 06:17 PM
No, its not too heavy. 300# brake lines are quite excessive but if the kites flying OK and that's all you have, don't worry. As Scott pointed out,
you are adding drag, but likely at a level the average flier will never notice.
Use what you've got.
Or, split the set you have and order a spool of 150# spectra and make up your own new sets of brake lines the same length as your current set and now
you'll have 2 sets of lines 500 / 150 and 300 / 150. I did that with a set of flexi exteme lines (they came 550 / 440 )
_____ - 24-7-2008 at 03:35 AM
That soundsnlike a good idea. Im gonna have to look into making my own 
speleopower - 24-7-2008 at 03:39 PM
In nearly 10 years of kitesurfing I've only had one 300 pound line break. I know that if I put 500-600 pound lines on my kites they do not fly very
well.
This picture is from 1999 and I'm on 300# mains and 150# brakes with a Quadrifoil Competition XL kite. I still fly the kite with the same lines.
Scott
dgkid78 - 24-7-2008 at 03:59 PM
speleopower do you think i should then use my color coded lines on the inside of my bar and connect the brake lines to the bar's outside leaders??
since I feel the force is mostly on the inside leaders?
B-Roc - 25-7-2008 at 10:02 AM
if its a fixed bridle kite on a fixed bridle kite bar always put the power lines on the outside and the brake lines to the inside.
If its a depower kite on a depower bar the power lines go through the center hole to your harness and the brakes are on the outside.
dgkid78 - 25-7-2008 at 01:09 PM
I always thought that depowers the gray lines go to the center and the color lines go on outside leaders matching the colors on the bar..ughh lol now
m all confused
B-Roc - 25-7-2008 at 01:14 PM
Pay no attention to the colors. Typically depowers have 4 lines that are all the same strength so it may not matter what color is where, but if they
aren't the same strength and its depower then power lines through the center and brakes to the outside.
dgkid78 - 25-7-2008 at 07:01 PM
oh ok thanks for clearing it up. for a min. i thought i was flying backwards all this time. I understand now. thanks b-roc