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xxxBUGGYPILOTXXX - 3-9-2008 at 09:43 PM

ripsessionkites - 4-9-2008 at 01:43 AM

hey DS, arent you running these on your rears right now?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluegoose9999/2616146121/in/poo...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bluegoose9999/2686773074/in/poo...

andya - 4-9-2008 at 03:18 AM

4 ply will always be heavier and stiffer than 2 ply. Over here (edit: in the UK) we all use 2 ply (edit: above 18"). However granted your surface conditions may require a more robust tyre.

BeamerBob - 4-9-2008 at 05:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by andya
4 ply will always be heavier and stiffer than 2 ply. Over here we all use 2 ply, however granted your surface conditions may require a more robust tyre.


Where is "over here"?

ripsessionkites - 4-9-2008 at 05:32 AM

UK

lunchbox - 4-9-2008 at 08:46 AM

Hopefully there's no such thing as a dumb question...

How do I know if a tire would fit on my buggy; rear axle in particular (I have a PL folding buggy. What part do you measure)?

Thanks.

WolfWolfee - 9-11-2008 at 08:23 AM

I ride hard surfaces all the time IE: fields etc. The narrow barrows are the way to go, more PSI on the ground equals traction good old physics...lol

coreykite - 10-11-2008 at 11:51 AM

Hey Lunchbox,
What do you mean if the rears will fit?
If the axle bolt fits the bearing and into your rear axle, you may fit any tire you like onto the rim.
There are no other clearances on the rear axle of a buggy.

It is the front fork one has to consider.

As the standard PL geometry has a distinct rear-axle weight bias, it would seem logical to swap up to BF tires on the rear first, see how it works, before the expense of swapping front forks.
Found this site recently:
http://1stoptires.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products...



"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

lunchbox - 10-11-2008 at 07:54 PM

Quote:

Hey Lunchbox, What do you mean if the rears will fit? If the axle bolt fits the bearing and into your rear axle, you may fit any tire you like onto the rim. There are no other clearances on the rear axle of a buggy. Found this site recently: http://1stoptires.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products...


Thanks Corey...and hopefully this is not an even dumber question, but if I want to buy the tire in the link you provided, how do I know what that tire supports (i.e. does it give bearing size) and then also, that my existing axle bolt is long enough...I guess if it's not, I can always go to my local Home Depot and buy a longer one?

kitemaker4 - 10-11-2008 at 10:06 PM

You can mount the big foot tires on your 8 inch rims then you will have big foot lights. You are just swaping out tires and will use the same rim, bearings and axle bolts.

Susan (npw goddess)

lunchbox - 11-11-2008 at 08:25 AM

Very cool...I didn't know that was possible...Thanks Susan.

kitemaker4 - 11-11-2008 at 09:00 AM

Yelp we do it all the time. I have a big foot light buggy on the stardard rims that came with the buggy.

Susan (npw goddess)

coreykite - 11-11-2008 at 11:59 AM

Hey Sailors,
Part of the issue here is terminology.
"Tires" are the round, rubber things that fit on the "rims" which are plastic or metal and hold the "bearings" that your axle bolt goes through into your axle.
The whole enchilada - tire, tube, rim, bearings - is called a "wheel"

The standard buggy rim is plastic and has an 8" diameter with a 4" width.
The hole in the middle of the rim is the "bearing race" and holds the bearings.
You may fit different size bearings (12mm or 15mm) into the rim.
You may mount different tires on the 8" rim - As long as they fit (that's what the measurements are for)
None of this alters the rim.
Same rim, same bearings, same bolts.
Our standard tires are: 4.80/4.00 x 8
BigFoot tires are: 21/12 x 8
We even use: 16/6.50 x 8
The catch is the added difficulty of fitting a wider, stiffer tire on a narrow 4" rim.

Check your plastic rims for internal cracking.
I've been seeing quite a bit of it on older plastic rims.


"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

WolfWolfee - 11-11-2008 at 01:48 PM

buddy, you got too much time on your hands. Get out flying....lol

coreykite - 11-11-2008 at 04:42 PM

Ha ha.
Get out flying...
First one needs wind.
Been lousy last 2 weeks.
Then... there's the job.
I don't have lotto winnings to see me through.
(At least not yet)
Running a business built around kites...
Ahh yes. That's what I want to do in times of economic depression.
If I couldn't fly and buggy on a pretty regular basis...
I think I'd be crazy.

What?
Oh.
Too late, huh?


"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama

awindofchange - 11-11-2008 at 07:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by coreykite
Ha ha.
Get out flying...
First one needs wind.
Been lousy last 2 weeks.
Then... there's the job.
I don't have lotto winnings to see me through.
(At least not yet)
Running a business built around kites...
Ahh yes. That's what I want to do in times of economic depression.
If I couldn't fly and buggy on a pretty regular basis...
I think I'd be crazy.

What?
Oh.
Too late, huh?


"Often wrong... Never in doubt"

the coreylama


Corey,

Your not getting off that easy, I seen you out with your indoor kite (Innerspace) last Friday and you were doing quite well in zero wind. :)

Still, a nice steady 15 mph blow would help ease the nerves anytime! :thumbup: