WolfWolfee - 6-1-2009 at 04:14 PM
http://www.vimeo.com/2736311
Wow, what a sweet looking kite. I have been thinking on one myself probably the 14M. Says it hauls along nicely.
Bladerunner - 6-1-2009 at 04:54 PM
Is this the same Luke that has the buggy speed record ?
The Fellow has skills 
nskiter - 6-1-2009 at 05:38 PM
The speed record guy's name is Luk Stanek, so could be.
nskiter - 6-1-2009 at 05:42 PM
Wolfwolfie, the Outlaw is basically a Pulse2 with open cells. If you have any thoughts of hitting the water I'd get a Pulse. If not, the Outlaw is
easier to launch/packup ..etc. Both really nice easy kites to use for the performance they have, can't go wrong either way.
WolfWolfee - 6-1-2009 at 07:57 PM
Not interested in the water scene, no knees left. I got a chance to fly a Pulse 2 found it really slow to what I'm used to have heard the Outlaw is a
lot quicker. I have heard from a lot of people it more like the Speed 2 then the Pulse's.
I fly strictly land as half the lakes around here you wouldn't want to swim in.
Do some winter stuff made ice blades for the buggy still working out some bugs but pretty happy with it.
PrairieWind - 6-1-2009 at 08:04 PM
Luk StaneS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s kitebuggy world speed record - 72.8 mph was with a Libre Full Race and Jojo RM 3.0 kite.
If it is the same Luke, (Luk Stanek spelled his name Luk without the "e"), the guy does have some nice buggy moves with the outlaw.
WolfWolfee - 6-1-2009 at 08:36 PM
wow, is that ever hauling a**
revpaul - 7-1-2009 at 10:53 AM
i think that fella is luke southern. he was recently sponsered by FS after they saw similar videos of him doing the same thing with their kite(s).
http://www.extremekites.com.au/australian-news/new-south-wal...
nskiter - 7-1-2009 at 06:34 PM
If you are not hitting the water, and buying new than for sure go Outlaw. Much easier to launch/packup. I'm curious..where did you read it is much
faster than the Pulse2? I'm considering a 12m Pulse2 to go with my 8m, and want to read any news I can beforehand.
Incidently, my 8m Pulse2 is not slow at all(mind you I only use it in 20+knots).Which size in what wind did you fly? They don't really perform in
lowish winds..not designed for them.
WolfWolfee - 7-1-2009 at 06:44 PM
I'll try and find the link for you it was on one of the forums as a announcement. I remember them making the statement it was more like the speeds but
others have said no Pulse 2. Your not the only one confused. I am looking at a Outlaw possibly the 12 or 14M , sure look good in the air, nice to have
the graphics the the flyer can see.
Revpaul has a Pulse 2 12M he could probably answer your question better than me, I know he likes it. Its hard for me too feel them out I have always
flown fixed bridle power monsters...lol Been working with the Sabre trying to only take it out so I have to use it and starting to like it but even
the bar is strange to me.
DenisLaMenace - 7-1-2009 at 06:53 PM
I would doubt the outlaw compare to the Speed. It shares the sames specs as the Pulse except it's an open cell.
It might be just a bit more powerful
Someone local who just bought 2 of them said it's an easy kite to fly. The Speed2 is not.
see specs within image
WolfWolfee - 7-1-2009 at 06:57 PM
They sure do match up spec wise do you think they are any faster than the Pulse's 2?
DenisLaMenace - 7-1-2009 at 07:02 PM
IMO not close to the speed2
WolfWolfee - 7-1-2009 at 07:14 PM
Ok, but faster than a Pulse 2?
DenisLaMenace - 7-1-2009 at 08:11 PM
Since the outlaw is lighter than the Pulse, yes it should be a bit faster. Open cell, I guess less inertia, a bit faster.
How much I don't know but ???
WolfWolfee - 7-1-2009 at 08:12 PM
Thanks Buzz, like I said I'm a buggy nut.
nskiter - 8-1-2009 at 05:12 PM
Are you into buggy jumping? All of the FS kites have quite a bit of lift. If you are really into going fast, and have clean winds I'd be looking hard
at a Speed2. They fly very far forward to the edge like you are used to with the Cents. I've actually gone as fast on the water as someone on the
beach in a bug with my 15m S2(winds about 8-9 knots). He was flying a10m Access2.
If your winds are not that smooth I'd keep looking for something else.
Another thing to keep in mind is the bigger kites use longer bars(60+cm) which might be a pain in the bug when you are used to handles. As always, try
to get a test run if possible, the FS importer for Canada(Mike Dowie?) is in AB. I believe. Drop him a note and see what he can do for you. If you can
get the ice buggy working be sure to share the recipe.
WolfWolfee - 8-1-2009 at 05:28 PM
Winds are definitely dirty here inland.
Yes I do jump a fair bit, wife don't like it but it makes my heart race and I love it. Geared out for it' full 661 gear (wife bought me a new one for
X-mas tore the arm of my last one..lol) with a Giro helmet I love. I only been on the Pulse 2 a short time it was a 8m I think found it really slow
but I know thats not fair as I fly fixed bridles.
I have thought of a Warrior upgraded with fourth line etc does have a WAC system already wondering how far you can push the upgrades?
Hard making a decision on a new kite or used, getting older need to slow down a bit but the video of the Outlaw looked great to me. Never quit the
air, in the blood...lol
I have talked with Mike and he is bringing out some Outlaws to the Kite Festival definitely going to give her a try and should have the carbides on
the Buggy blades by then. So far it seems to be working pretty good but not any crazy winds to rip around with yet but did turn pretty well but think
the Carbides should really pin it down.
nskiter - 8-1-2009 at 08:08 PM
With dirty winds, forget the Speeds.Good to hear you are fully kitted with gear. If you were on an 8m Pulse 2 and found it slow you will not care for
the bigger ones. Must have been lighter winds as I find mine nippy in 20-30 knots. I also wonder if it was tuned correctly.
The Warrior will be slower again, so pass on that one too.
Be sure to fly next to a Pulse at the Festival so you can report on any diffs in speed back to back. Curious minds want to know :-)