Power Kite Forum

Landboard Speed Runs

Houston AirHead - 12-6-2009 at 12:47 AM

Why is it that i cannot find one video of speeds runs with a landboard.

any one know of one?

PHREERIDER - 12-6-2009 at 04:46 AM

camera man is left behind.

its like cars on the hwy not that much going on

in buggy or on a ATV. could keep up.

most videos are passes with jumps or transitions.

popeyethewelder has good example of speed runs in a buggy

Landboarding over 40 mph in 40 seconds

lad - 12-6-2009 at 05:09 AM



(the guy is using a 6m Access! ;) )

kiteNH - 12-6-2009 at 05:51 AM

40 mph seems fast on a landboard. I think that the fastest that I've gone is only 23 mph and that felt fast to me. You must have to get the trucks torqued down really tight because one speed wobble (or rock or shell) and you're gonna eat it bad. Does anyone know what the landboard speed record is?

lad - 12-6-2009 at 05:57 AM

The guy says in the comments: "Hi i use A Design extreme deck & revo trucks and primo alpha tyres."

PHREERIDER - 12-6-2009 at 06:11 AM

i have to say i have been around 40mph and generally just fall back against the kite and slide off the speed ..it really smokes the tires. and wobbles, always power through them re-balance to the rear.

i think some guys on here have hit 52mph .

fast is cool but excessive high speeds is asking for it.

just from the runs i make 15 -25mph is plenty and it produces better, more control air with out brutal endings. that break your junk and you.

BeamerBob - 12-6-2009 at 06:13 AM

I know that after 30 mph in a buggy, it feels like you are about to break the sound barrier. I can't imagine hitting 40 mph on a landboard. I'm sure its possible with the right talent and conditions, but not as common as 40 mph in a buggy (which isn't common at all).

lad - 12-6-2009 at 06:22 AM

I would think the speed wobbles would just make it quite unpleasant, if not near impossible.

The Dirt Surfer supposedly doesn't have the wobbles - but I'm too lazy to search what the top speed on one of those was!

I guess ice speeding wouldn't present wobbles - maybe some other problems. Oddly, I read in the Greenbird stories how wind w/wheels is still, so far, faster than wind/ice attempts.

*OK, I got some time on my hands :yawn:

Dirtsurfer record
"The current unofficial Dirtsurfer speed record is 117 kph (70mph)" - but that's downhill!

Flexifoil forum posts concludes there is no official, Guiness-worthy landboard record.

indigo_wolf - 12-6-2009 at 07:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lad
"Hi i use A Design extreme deck & revo trucks and primo alpha tyres."

Spendy but nice gear. :shocked2: Kind of surprised in wasn't the Quadrolution for stability.

No (elbow) pads, no gloves.... hopefully a helmet. :no:

ATB,
San

dylanj423 - 12-6-2009 at 09:39 AM

I bet you a newer Ground Industries deck would be capable of some of these high speeds.... I seem to recall something out USA Eli (here on PKF) hitting aroumph on a Flight Lite Deck.

I must say that the GI decks are STRONG.... and dont wobble much at all. I have only had my board wobble on me once... and very little that one time.

kiteNH - 12-6-2009 at 09:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dylanj423
I must say that the GI decks are STRONG.... and dont wobble much at all. I have only had my board wobble on me once... and very little that one time.


I thought that the wobble was more from the trucks than the board, but maybe not. If the board contributes to the wobble then I would think that a really stiff board would probably help. Either way, I'm cruising at 20 mph and don't think I have the stones for 40.

Houston AirHead - 12-6-2009 at 12:10 PM

I just bought a new mbs core 95, its over all length is 44 inches. Im mostly inteested in speed and airs, Im gonna start hitting the fields next week, Im thinking of getting like a 2 meter pansh ledgend for high speeds.

dylanj423 - 12-6-2009 at 12:24 PM

i have rsrearched wobble a little.... turns out there are highly advanced mathematical equations that relate the frequncy of vibration to a certain build/ stiffness... when the vibration frequency of the spinning of the wheels hits a certain factor (cant remember what), thats when wobble sets in.

google it, there is a lot of info on wikipedia... none of which really means anything to me.... i just know that my first board wobbled a lot, and my new on doesnt. my new one has a stiffer deck, and different trucks. i would bet that both influence speed wobble

lad - 12-6-2009 at 12:31 PM

I thought wobble had more to do with just having 4 wheels, whereas a dirtsurfer or bike would normally have it's 2 wheels connecting to the ground and increased gyroscopic stability with speed.

dylanj423 - 12-6-2009 at 01:06 PM

i believe it has more to do with the placement of wheels, and their rigidity... not how many there are...

PHREERIDER - 12-6-2009 at 07:30 PM

speed wobbles occur in all curvilinear action with small balance points.

the growing tires oscillating mass has a threshold differential enough to effect the whole system with truck spring/tire rebound effect also added in there as well, but in slower systems it is rider feedback that causes most problems when balance teeters too quickly for too long across the boards balance point.

any way it happens and it sucks when you get cracked riding it out

kitejumper - 12-6-2009 at 07:46 PM

wow...40mph cant even imagine that-i'll be satisfied if i can hit 20

lad - 12-6-2009 at 08:21 PM

"but in slower systems it is rider feedback that causes most problems"

I read in some How To Landboard page that "just relaxing" can reduce wobbles (or maybe just your own stress reaction to them!) :wow:

-mj- - 18-6-2009 at 12:39 PM

Choice of board is key to go fast, youŽll need a long board with stiff trucks.
106cm stiff wooden board with channel trucks Žll get you up to 40mph.
Problem is that these types of board arenŽt real suitable for freestyle (too heavy in weight and steering)