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Flexifoil Lines

Hardrock - 30-6-2009 at 03:14 PM

Anybody useing these lines?

Got a set off ebay last week and don't know if I should just keep them as a spare or put them on the 5m ace.

Seems they put one or two sets a week up for bids.

Flexifoil 25m Flying Lines 4 Set
(2x150kg/330lb & 2x100kg/220lb)

kitejumper - 30-6-2009 at 03:42 PM

i put a new set of these on my blade 10.5 today and did some scudding and jumping.....then later, when the winds picked up, i used the same lines with a blade 4m to do a little buggying--they seem fine,but i wouldnt feel real comfortable jumping very high with them........

arkay - 30-6-2009 at 05:06 PM

I believe the general rule of thumb for lines is front lines 2x your weight and rear lines 1.5x your weight. So if you're 165lbs...

beachrights - 30-6-2009 at 07:08 PM

I have 2 sets of these and flew the crap out of my main set till the power line broke. I jumped, skudded my ass off , buggied and abused them to the bitter end. Took about 1 1/2 years till it broke.

I always had confidence in them and you should too. What are you comparing them to?

arkay - 30-6-2009 at 08:09 PM

I bet he's asking because these are the "ebay" lines :) There's always a set or pile of these on ebay...

Hardrock - 30-6-2009 at 08:12 PM

I wasn't really comparing, I got them for 28 dollars (new in package) so couldn't turn them down. If I was comparing it would be with the HQ lines that came with the beamer. Those seem to be great lines, All I have are HQ and Pansh.

Still waiting on the flexifoil lines in the mail, I think they shipped Monday. I was thinking about useing them with the Ace 5m to replace the Pansh lines when they get a bit older.

The Ace will be used for jumping. Mostly by step son who is under 150lbs. I might use it some myself (200lbs) but for now we're not getting big air, just learning and seeing about 4 footers.

From what I'm reading, the flexifoil lines will be fine for this. Big air? dunno, but thats a ways off.

Reminds me, him and his mom flew some today while I was at work. The wind was picking up some so she was walking to the car to get his helmet. Too late, he went by her in the air and got slammed pretty hard. He said he thought it broke his arm but got over it pretty quick. It's funny now, but could have been bad.

Have to say, new respect learned for the Ace.

Thanks for the line info. I feel pretty good about them now.

Hardrock - 30-6-2009 at 08:37 PM

Yes arkay, the first post said I got them from ebay.

Been watching them every week. They'll put another set up as soon as the previous one ends.

Is there a differance between new Flexifoil lines bought on ebay and Flexfoil lines bought somewhere else? I'd think not but your post sounds a little like these lines are not what they should be.

You've probably forgot more about kites than I'll ever learn, so all I can do is ask for your help.

Sounds like they are pretty good lines. But I do wonder, why so many because your right, you always see some on there. I guess in any case, if they are good enough for these guys, then there good enough for me.

Thanks

dylanj423 - 30-6-2009 at 09:04 PM

reat lines..... all but two of my kites are on them.... never had an issue.... flew in crazy 30mph winds, buggied it up, scudded, jumped..... so on.... good lines...

you should notice a much greater eye for detail in even flexis linesets... thats what i love about flexi

beachrights - 1-7-2009 at 02:45 AM

Could be "new,old stock" meaning someone wanting to move out the old product and replace with new. Flexi is Flexi as far as I know. HQ has a couple of "levels" of lines but I have never seen this with Flexi.

Watch out for that Ace!

acampbell - 1-7-2009 at 04:40 AM

Those lines on Ebay do not look like Flexifoil. Well they do ,but I do not recognize the packaging- looks counterfeit.

Flexifoil has done much to cheapen and devalue their brand this year, but I am not sure they would sell their lines on eBay for scrap prices

The barcode sticker in the photos has what looks like the right part number, but the format and placement is all wrong.

A Chinese knock-off of a Chinese-produced product. Funny. Anybody wanna buy a Rolex? Ten dolla!!

dylanj423 - 1-7-2009 at 05:23 AM

i have purchased a lot of gear from the guy that is selling those lines... numerous linesets.... four kites.... my kiteboard.... my harness.... etc...

he's a good guy, no counterfeit gear there... very good prices... i imagine its just old stock... not knock-off either...

the guys store used to be called "Extreme Air Store", and their number was programmed into my phone, I liked dealing with them so much...

BeamerBob - 1-7-2009 at 05:36 AM

While the Extreme Air guy might be a great guy that has always taken care of his customers, I wouldn't discount Angus's intuition on the nuances of Flexi packaging. He has handled a set or two of Flexi lines, over several years now. You could both be right and they are some really old stock that he got a racehorse deal on a truckload of and just keeps on listing them till they're gone. Maybe someone should ask him directly and see what he says, or what the way he answers says between the lines.(No pun intended)

acampbell - 1-7-2009 at 06:05 AM

Are we looking at the same advt?
http://tinyurl.com/nvsn23
That's what i found when searching for "Flexifoil line set"

Could be really old stock, I suppose. 3+ years maybe. I have not seen 150/ 100 kg line sets. that is somewhere between the little Sting line sets (100/ 75 kg) and the currently offered sets at around 200/100 kg minimum.

If the guy is a legit dealer then I did not mean to 'diss. But he calls them "kiteboarding kite" line sets which made me think he does not know what he is selling. Or just uses those keywords to attract hits.

dylanj423 - 1-7-2009 at 06:34 AM

same lines.... definitely not for kitesurfing, though... old legit stock, i am sure flexi doesnt make them anymore... but they work just fine... they could also have been produced fror sale in another location, with different packaging ... happens sometimes in other things, not so sure about kites... anyway, buy with confidence, those guys are fine, though i think they lost so much money that they are now just selling on ebay, they used to have a store front...

you might be able to forfeit something like the logo.... plagiarize the name.... use the same color scheme.... but the quality is the same, too... so i will buy these linesets until they are gone, and save $50 per lineset!! the 8 kites that i have put those lines on have never had any issues, so if they are fakes (and i would bet that they arent), then they are good enough for me, and with the $400 i have saved on kite gear, i can afford another kite!

:)happy flying, all

kitejumper - 1-7-2009 at 02:27 PM

interesting topic,for sure........

geokite - 1-7-2009 at 06:42 PM

Interesting that someone tested the then current bid by increasing their bid by $0.50, 13 times.

Oh yea, I'm sure $0.50, 9 hours before the auction ends, will win it...

Hardrock - 3-7-2009 at 07:16 PM

The lines finally got here. I recorded a video as I took them out and will post it here if it uploads in this life time.

They look really good and I'm sure they are Flexifoil.

Gesh, there must be a better way to upload to youtube. Maybe the camera settings are too high.

Ok here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE5uql9t1sM

BeamerBob - 4-7-2009 at 06:12 AM

They LOOK like Flexi lines. That looks like the bundle of Flexi winders I have as well. Where did I get all these line winders?

dylanj423 - 4-7-2009 at 10:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BeamerBob
Where did I get all these line winders?


its like they freakin multiplied, isnt it? better question is why did i keep saving them after i already had like four just laying there:puzzled:

kandrey89 - 8-9-2009 at 12:17 PM

I assume the buyer is happy with these lines?
I'm planning on getting myself a set for my 8m Gual for jumping, this will save me some money and the hassle of making my own lines.

furbowski - 8-9-2009 at 12:31 PM

@ kandrey: jump on them, they're the real deal and very sweet flying lines. I just might get a set myself.

yeah love the curves on those flexi winders.... They're the ones I keep!:piggy:

@ hard rock -- for best results yes shoot at lower resolution and upload raw (after editing) to youtube, it's the best way to get quick uploads which look as good as they can.

Houston AirHead - 8-9-2009 at 12:39 PM

your main power lines should be ATLEAST 2.5 times your body weight, i dont know about rear lines. I had a friend who bought these lines not knowing much about power ratings and pounds ect... he put them on his 15m Waroo he made it about half mile down wind (in water) and snapped a line while comming in not even on a jump. Hes not too heavy either, 160-180 pounds.

dylanj423 - 8-9-2009 at 12:44 PM

these definitely are not kite surfing lines... but they have done me just fine in a buggy and on an atb

kandrey89 - 8-9-2009 at 02:02 PM

I'm looking at these lines for jumping and wrestling on sand.

How come the land VS water kite lines AND kite sizes differ so much? On land it's 3-8m, on water it's 8-20m kites. On land its 300-400# lines, on water it's 600-800# lines. :lol::Ange09:

dylanj423 - 8-9-2009 at 02:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by kandrey89


How come the land VS water kite lines AND kite sizes differ so much? On land it's 3-8m, on water it's 8-20m kites. On land its 300-400# lines, on water it's 600-800# lines. :lol::Ange09:


You need more power to get moving on water... not to mention that you are probably looking at fixed bridle kites vs depower kites... fixed bridles are more efficient at catching air (so you dont need a huge kite), and are generally open-celled kites... you need either tube kites or closed cell foils for water relaunching... these are generally depower kites (and less efficient)...

stronger lines for the same reason... you have more power being exerted on the line, so it needs to be a lot stronger

acampbell - 8-9-2009 at 02:35 PM

On fixed bridle kites, the primary load is on the front/ main lines, hence they are stronger. The load on the brakes is mainly for trim.

On de-power kites, the loads are more evenly distributed on the four lines, hence they are the same strength.

WELDNGOD - 9-9-2009 at 06:44 PM

Yep, those are genuine Flexifoil. Same size and test that came with my 2.5 rage. gonna get me a set too.:thumbup::thumbup:

kandrey89 - 24-9-2009 at 08:43 PM

Got the product, $26, looks great, can't wait to try them out.
In fact can't wait to buy any power kite, and try one. Hoping Pansch Ace 5m from this forum will work out for me.