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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 10:18 AM
Classic rookie mistake...lol


Well i did the classic rookie mistake today :singing:...Sunny, about 20degree C [approx 82 for the US guys] winds out off the N/E at about 10mph gusting to 15....NO way am i missing this!!!

Get to the field, winds are nice and smooth, unwind the Pansh Airlink 4.6 and up she goes.....couple cuts accross the window to get use to this kite [new used kite for me]...NICE and fast...fast turn to come back accross at about 10 feet off the ground THEN, you guessed it, a big gust swells up so i brace and lean back almost fully on my *ss and bam!!! All of my 230lbs body is hurling threw the air :wee: Classic!!! and i asked about kite killers, hah, if i had of had some i would have been dragged another 30 feet before i would have stopped!!!

Needless to say i put that kite away and brought out my Reflex 3meter.....review time!!!:yes:
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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 11:22 AM


wow, didn't know the airlink had the mojo to do you like that, but gusting to eighteen maybe with the kite deep and fast, yeah, I can see it for sure. that's a first attempt at a race kite by a dodgy company, so be careful with it, it;s likely to have most of the grunt but none of the refinement of the quality (and much pricier) race kites put out by other companies. Also (hate to say it but happened to my legend 3) check your bridle lines to see if they are static or dynamic (not stretchy vs. about 5-7% stretch) if they are dynamic your bridle lines may stretch over time.

if you have two kites, always best to launch the smaller first if you are any doubt at all about a bigger kite in those winds, it's a good warm-up for the big beast if nothing else!

glad to hear you're OK, that sort of thing can crack ribs!

And I must add that kite killers would have given you a good hard yank just after the handles popped out of your hands, but properly set up they would've been very unlikely to drag you thirty feet in winds less than 20 mph. ( imho )



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also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.

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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 11:30 AM


Thanks for the heads up....i may send this Airlink down the road and replace it with a SkyCountry Reflex..although it is a pretty kite!! I'll give it a second go if/when the winds calm down....

You are totaly correct, i should have errored on the small side....lesson learnt and registered

Not sure really what would have happened with kite killers on...i was just glad not to be tethered to anything as i flew past the goal line....LOL
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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 11:52 AM


I wouldn't dismiss the airlink just because it's a pansh. t'was cheap, right? check the bridle though and see if you are at risk of stretching it over time, tho, that would be a good reason to pass it on (outside the forum please :evil: ) while it still flies good enough to give somebody an adrenalin rush or two for their money. just my $o.o2 there...

but yes putting up a smaller kite first is much safer and while i take lots of risks with kites i do try to be safe where i can, especially of bystanders, hard to do with some :crazy:

yes kite killers need to be tested and possibly fine tuned before used in anger, it's easy for anyone who can do a reverse launch and otherwise use brakes. Scudley has mentioned that the reflexes are not designed with kite killer use in mind, and recommends testing. They do have safety value for folks still figuring out what the bigger winds can do with their kites! and btw a side pass so deep through the window is pretty much impossible when you're powered up enough to jump, so it sounds like you were dealing with the juice you'd need for air!

You're doing good, i bet the incident only whetted your appetite in the end!!!:bigok:



fixed bridles, flying static, been two years now... ??? folks must be wondering....

sting 1.7, dp power 2.5, crossfire 3.2, ace 5, blade iv 6.5, ace 8, ace 12...

also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.

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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 12:02 PM


If i had of turned up instead of going deeper it would have been a nice lifter!!!

Kept saying to myself "someone needs to try this thing in a buggy"...lol

Thanks for the encouragement and advice, we ALL need it......left the flying field after a couple hours exhausted, sore and with a HUGE GRIN...now hopefully their is wind tomorrow as it's a holiday!!!! woooohooo!!!!!
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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 12:17 PM


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If i had of turned up instead of going deeper it would have been a nice lifter!!!



yep, that's how to get big air at first, start low and end high!

sorry (can't help the free advice, it's in my genes or the wind or something!) but do try to learn how to fly blind as well (think i posted more about it on another thread of yours) its really good for jumping and essential for buggy / landboard.



fixed bridles, flying static, been two years now... ??? folks must be wondering....

sting 1.7, dp power 2.5, crossfire 3.2, ace 5, blade iv 6.5, ace 8, ace 12...

also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.

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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 04:23 PM


wow ,tonka--youve got more guts than me--and im nuts:shocked2:
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[*] posted on 6-9-2009 at 07:05 PM


haha freaking awesome lol

Need to get those kks though, even in the gails once youve let the handles go, the kite collapses and is flaps away at a steady decent.



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[*] posted on 7-9-2009 at 08:50 AM


Yup a rookie mistake is buying a Pansh kite.



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[*] posted on 7-9-2009 at 08:53 AM


Yup maybe but they can't be all that bad or they would be out of business. Is it anywere as good as my SkyCountry Reflex? No....am I buying another no as I'm solely good to SkyCountry's!!!!!!
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[*] posted on 7-9-2009 at 09:03 AM


yeah pansh are good for trying out but once most folks fly something good its bye bye pansh hello bad credit:evil::lol:



fixed bridles, flying static, been two years now... ??? folks must be wondering....

sting 1.7, dp power 2.5, crossfire 3.2, ace 5, blade iv 6.5, ace 8, ace 12...

also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.

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[*] posted on 8-9-2009 at 04:13 PM


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Originally posted by speleopower
Yup a rookie mistake is buying a Pansh kite.


Ive made that mistake then :yes:



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[*] posted on 9-9-2009 at 05:32 AM


Tonka,
you have to remember that flying in winds that the gust are double the wind speed can be dangerous. Doubling the wind speed cubes the power.
Aren't glad I did not sell you Phlo? I have asked about 2m Reflexes, but the designer says in would be all speed and no power.
You are enjoying the Escape?
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[*] posted on 9-9-2009 at 05:48 AM


Would have never even concidered using Phlo in those winds!!! I felt safe enough with the 4.6 but sometimes you get bit :rolleyes:.

The Escape is fantastic!!! What a screamer.......was thinking of the 2 meter for exactly that .......SPEED, want to make a kite go fast enough to whistle, note really interested in the power aspect with this kite [2meter]....
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