Just wondering about the order of how you lay out and pack up your kite. if you para-pack, you have to lay out lines first and pack up kite first. What about the rest?

im a para packer thru and thru

I parapack unless the kite is wet when handel wrap to lay out kite in utility room to dry when I get home.

What do you mean, lay out lines first?

When I finished my session I put a stake in or head back to the one I left in the ground,
land the kite,
brake lines around the stake,
go get my bag,
drag the kite up-wind so the bridle can be put in the velcro straps neatly,
put the bag on the trailing edge,
fold one tip in then halve it etc etc until the kite is nicely pack sized,
put the kite in the pack by my secret method that provides easy & perfect parapacking ok you twisted my arm so the lines can go down the back,
hold lines,
walk back to the handles,
para-pack with small stuffs,
put the handles down the front of the bag,
wrap the KKs around the top handle on the pack so they don't fester,
go back to the car,
remember I forgot the stake,
go back and get that,
check I haven't left anything vital nor any garbage,
go home.

Easy!

I don't parapack, but packing the kite than the lines, unpacking the lines than the kite is the easy way to do it.

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Originally posted by Kamikuza What do you mean, lay out lines first?

Some take the kite out of the bag and then unwind the lines. Some unwind the lines then take the kite out of the bag. If you para-pack, you have deal with the lines first. If you wind, you can do either.

right here

thats how i started, thats what works for me!

(Props to coastalwindsports!)

For me, the kite is last out of the bag and first in. I don't want a kite in the wind without lines to control it with. My lines are unwound and staked before I take the kite out and unfold it. Doesn't apply to ARCs of course.

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Originally posted by Drewculous right here thats how i started, thats what works for me! (Props to coastalwindsports!)

I don't care what anybody says, Angus always has good advice.

Exclusively parapacking for me (shhhh, don't tell anyone... I even parapacked my depowerables).

I daisy chain my lines - but it is just about the same as parapacking. My system and the way nearly everyone in our Vegas group does their power kites is:

1) Put stake in ground, pull handles out and lay over stake, brake lines hooked.

2) Lay daisy chain out on ground, untie end knot in daisy chain.

3) Throw kite bag (with kite) down wind as hard as possible - daisy chain pulls out and lines are laid out for you.

4) Go to bag, pull kite out of bag and open it up.

5) Walk back to handles with bag, remove handles from stake, place bag on stake - launch and haul %#$ across the lake bed.

To pack the kite up, it is just a reversal of the above:

1) Land kite, grab bag off of stake, stake brake lines.

2) Go to kite, pull kite upwind, connect bridles, fold and pack kite into bag with lines attached.

3) Daisy chain lines up to handles.

4) Coil up daisy chain wrap extra round chain and handles, stuff into bag and pull out stake - your done.

This method allows me to unpack a kite AND have it in the air - usually less than 1 minute....1.5 minutes if there ever happens to be a snag. Packing up the kite usually takes about 3-4 minutes....5 minutes if I am flying on 100' lines or longer. I have maybe one tangle every 6 months (if that) and it usually takes less than 2-3 minutes to straighten out at the longest. The only thing that is a problem is if someone else packs up my kites - then I don't know what they did and it can take a long time to get the tangles our mess sorted out. With our huge mass of demo kites, many of them get packed up in different ways after people use them and it can be a pain at times.

I agree that it is best to leave the kite in the bag and have all your lines run out and staked before opening it up - this eliminates the possibility of the kite self launching and being out of control.

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Originally posted by live2hover Quote: Originally posted by Drewculous right here thats how i started, thats what works for me! (Props to coastalwindsports!) I don't care what anybody says, Angus always has good advice.

I don't care what anyone says, Kent always has good advice too!

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I usually dump the bag in the right place, then walk the lines out cos I am a poor judge of how long my lines are and used to put the stake in the ground too close to the edge of the field kite comes out of the bag last though. Ok I am just too lazy to walk further out into the field :D

Really seems to be what works for you, works for you. I have zero problems with parapacking - at worse, I have to do a spin with the handles to un-cross them and MAYBE the brake lines are over the power lines, but that's it. Recently, I've even (somehow!) managed to avoid those little issues and just pick up the handles and fly.

I have more problems with my Arcs & C-kite, wrapping the lines around each other when I'm laying them out