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[*] posted on 18-9-2009 at 04:33 PM
Short lines on arcs ?


I was very impressed with short lines on fixed bridles when the Dutch gave us a few lessons. It made dealing with the kite in that mad wind much easier.

Has anybody flown their arcs on 15m lines? Jumping ??

Short lines could be an advantage to me.



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[*] posted on 18-9-2009 at 05:37 PM


The theory is that short lines are better for high wind, and in fact, that they require higher winds to operate. I haven't tried it, but that should be the difference.



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[*] posted on 18-9-2009 at 05:59 PM


it will reduce power of your kite i.e............... 25 meter lines will make your kite faster but reduce the power your kite makes............your 15 will be more like a 14..............................why would you want to shorten your lines?



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[*] posted on 18-9-2009 at 06:58 PM


really haven't found a short combo worth working with . the kite really need the distance to generste speed across the window and a short run is just weak and throws off the timing and power band . i tried an 18m set once and could n't get the kite back to the beach fast enough to go back to 30m set . 27m is the standard, but 32m worked for me even in high winds. the narrowing line angles compresses the arc shape and really affects he handling . that's a guess at the why



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[*] posted on 19-9-2009 at 02:36 AM


unless you are going for megaloops then i dont see the point of short lines.



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[*] posted on 19-9-2009 at 08:42 AM


Thanks,

I found that short lines on the race style kites I was demoing at NABX made a huge difference when the wind was up.
My local parks are small and or crowded. People have been good about it but I am aware my ever growing kites are demanding a lot of sky.
I was just curious how the shorter lines would play out on jumps. The kite should respond a bit quicker ??? This would allow me to shorten the space I need to jump ???

Carl, I'm extremely interested in an expanded view of how you feel they play out ! Keeping my unique need to ride tight around others in mind.

Mostly I'm looking reduce my needed space.



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[*] posted on 19-9-2009 at 09:36 AM


ive only ever flown a small arc on short lines (10m v) and as per my previous post, it makes looping easier.

the way i see it is, using short lines has a major effect on the power of the kite, so you are able to take a small kite out in higher winds.

as you are flying inland you should be looking at the longest lines you can use, as the cleaner air is high up!! ive flown my 15m syn on 47m (20m extensions) lines whilst flying inland, to get above the trees and find the cleaner wind. i dont fly inland for this very reason!!!!



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[*] posted on 19-9-2009 at 05:22 PM


I'm thinking 15m lines ?
I flew Rip's 10.3 Reactor II on short lines in light wind and liked it well enough.



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[*] posted on 19-9-2009 at 05:45 PM


15m lines won't keep you out the surf when you're down here Blade. :lol:



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[*] posted on 19-9-2009 at 05:55 PM


i've decided that if anyone wants to be in my line they can be the one to turn away or we'll just have to jump over them. sorry in advance if i drop my mtn board on your head. LOL.

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Thanks,

I found that short lines on the race style kites I was demoing at NABX made a huge difference when the wind was up.
My local parks are small and or crowded. People have been good about it but I am aware my ever growing kites are demanding a lot of sky.
I was just curious how the shorter lines would play out on jumps. The kite should respond a bit quicker ??? This would allow me to shorten the space I need to jump ???

Carl, I'm extremely interested in an expanded view of how you feel they play out ! Keeping my unique need to ride tight around others in mind.

Mostly I'm looking reduce my needed space.




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