Paranoid or not, Evan Frustaglio died in about 48 hours after even his doctor told him to just go home and get some rest.

Saturday he was playing hockey with a sniffle, Monday morning he collapsed dead in the bathroom.

The poor kid lived about 15 km from my house.

My family is getting the flu shots ASAP!


RIP Evan

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Originally posted by Kamikuza Quote: Originally posted by Scudley Listening to the news this morning: a 13 year old boy in Toronto died of H1N1 last night. He had a sore throat Friday. Sunday was sick enough his parents took him to a clinic where he was given aspirin for fever and sent home. Dead Monday night. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/10/27/frustraglio-h1n1-t... Maybe inoculation is not such a bad idea, but try getting one. There is not enough vaccine in Canada to give shots to health care workers, only to high risk patients. S How many kids died in car crashes that day? Falling down the stairs etc ...? it's cold but it's not statistically significant to warrant all the paranoia. Ill-informed paranoia, if you live in Japan All virii (sp?) mutate and change - it's called evolution. We'll always be playing catch-up to try and beat them ... here's a sci-fi scenario for you - perhaps if we'd just suffered the original cold flu, rather than trying to kill it with drugs, we wouldn't have forced it to mutate into something more virulent ...?

virus is plural. viron is singular. The virus mutates because it doesn't replicate it's self. It replicates in the host's cells by the host's own mechanism. Each host is different. put simply. You are right though about statistical danger. Lots more dangerous to drive somewhere. All that being said I got the shot last night at work. I really can't afford to be sick working in an ER. We have tons of sick calls already.
I do feel bad about the people that have died from it even as unlikely as it is.

Sad thing is , it was Evans own immune response that killed him. that is why it is knocking perfectly healthy young people down for the count. That was what the spanish flu did 1918 , it killed lots of people you would think were too healthy.Their bodies sent out too aggressive an attack, and there lungs would fill w/ fluid and they died of severe pnuemonia. Look up cytokine storm if want more info how this works.

How are you guys doing Weldngod?

I'm doin alot better now , the wife not so much. Can't stand being in bed anymore, and for the first time in days I'm hungry. I'm not sayin I feel like flyin yet , but were gonna live.
Just seems like a bad 4 day flu.

Get well guys! Let me know if you need anything, I have some friends in the area that can run some where if you need.

thanks Todd, we got plenty of family to help us.thanks for the offer. As I sit here homebound,I see out the window, the sky has cleared up. And now the wind is blowing pretty good, now I'm gonna be sick:ticking:

The similarity between this flu and Spanish Influenza are why public health authorities are so scared by this flu. Other causes for the reaction by public health officials were: how fast the virus traveled around the globe; no protection from this virus was provided by any the vaccines available at the time of discovery; and the only drug available for treatment was of limited benefit.
Although the drug companies stand to make large amounts of money from the vaccines, the driving force for the implementation of the immunization program were public health officials. They have the thankless job of preventing major outbreaks of disease. If they control the outbreak, the public feels that the warnings were a bunch BS and tonnes of money was wasted. If they fail at controlling the outbreak, the public and politicians will hold them responsible for the failure. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
If you think the immunization programs is a costly boondoggle, think of the total economic cost of a major epidemic that kills hundreds of thousands and requires millions of hospitalizations, (think lost time at work; insurance claims; lost income, etc.). A gram of prevention is much cheaper than a kilogram of cure.
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i went for a haircut last night. the topic of choice was H1N1. most everyone said they were not getting the needle because "let everyone else get it and that's good enough".
the second interesting point they were discussing was the "we don't have to worry about it because it only hits the old folks and young kids". the article i read says majority killed (here in Canda) are ~32 yr female.

Yup. The "old folks" were exposed to a strain that has some similar antibodies so it's actually LESS LIKELY to hit those 65+

One thing I really don't get is why Anna (5 months old) can't get it yet if she wa 6 months old (three weeks from now) she could :puzzled: We figure if she can't handle it for whatever reason at 5 months we're not going to set an alarm clock for her 6 month birthday.

That's the trouble really....there's so much confused info out there about this thing it's getting everyone turned upside down.