Well the title i think explains it, how do i attach a chicken loop to a 4 line bar ( non depower) , i did my research and learnt that i just like hook the chicken loop onto the spreader then put the " donkey dick " through the spreader hook thing.

but i am stumped when it comes connecting the chicken loop to the bar itself, :o

thanks

a 4 line bar that is not a depower bar can not use a chicken loop. the closest thing you can get to it is a strop

the pic is a flexifoil bar and the strop is the large loop.

That is what Dakitze ( and I ) call a D-loop.
It is exactly what you want.
I can't speak for the 5.6 but when I tried the 7.7 twister on a stock P.L. bar it was lousy.
Maybe a crossover bar might work better but I just ordered my 7.7 Twister on handles.

is this not a chicken loop ? http://www.atbshop.co.uk/images/ozone/ozone_imp_ks_quark_i.j...

the loop thing connected to the bar ? and if so , i dont see how it is connected to the bar

That's a three line trainer kite. Not a four line kite.

YES, that is a chicken loop but the Imp isn't a normal kite.

You either want the new bar by ozone or a D-loop for a stock P.L. bar.

HQ also makes a D-loop. I don't know which is cheaper, the PL or the HQ.

ahhhh the new ozone bar, just what im looking for !!! thanks for that. And when people say a bar on the twister is lousy, what would you meen by that. atm im on handles

The new ozone bar is a whole new ball of wax. I suggest you read about it + search for it in a past discussion on here.

The bar that the Twister comes with doesn't allow for much brake input when you turn the kite. The front lines do the turning and the back just sort of rolls to follow. This made a big kite like the 7.7 super slow to turn because there was almost no brake input.

I have made a thing called a crossover bar. It gives 2 / 1 brake input to the kite relative to how hard you turn. This helps a LOT with bigger fixed bridles.

Why are you so keen to go to a bar ?

YES HQ and P.L. make a D-loop. ?

FWIW:

The bar on the Ozone Flow uses a Chicken Loop.

ATB,
Sam

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Originally posted by indigo_wolf FWIW: The bar on the Ozone Flow uses a Chicken Loop. ATB, Sam

The Flow is a kite ?

Probably it comes with the new bar ( turbo ? ) that has a chicken loop.

The only person I know with a Flow got it on handles ?

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Originally posted by Bladerunner The Flow is a kite ?

Errr...ummm... Yes.

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Originally posted by Bladerunner Probably it comes with the new bar ( turbo ? ) that has a chicken loop.

Ummm... no... standard FB 4-line bar. The Flow was available through dealers quite a bit (comparatively) before the Ozone Turbo Bar was. :sniff:

Bar Features

• Composite 54cm Bar
  
• EVA covered 3D grip with easy to identify colours for left or right side.
  
• Rear brake line pulley
  
• Single webbing safety wrist leash with release handle connected to rear lines for easy and effective stall system
  
• Benchmark Ozone Megatron Chickenloop bar to harness connection
  
• 4 x 180/110kgs 20m flying 
lines made from the highest quality colour-coded Dyneema with Ozone’s line label connection system
  

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Originally posted by Bladerunner The only person I know with a Flow got it on handles ?

Wanted to try it on a bar... have a spare set of Flexi ProLink Handles when I want to fly it on handles.

ATB,
Sam

I've got a Flow on handles. I absolutely love it.

So, how does the bar / kite use a chicken loop + a wrist leash ?
How is it attached ?


This must be it but I still don't see how it is attached ?

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Originally posted by Bladerunner So, how does the bar / kite use a chicken loop + a wrist leash ? How is it attached ?

Sorry... missed the last post.

Here's how the FB bar sets up with the Flow:
http://www.outriderweb.com/forum_posts/pkf/flow_on_bar.jpg

ATB,
Sam

When I made my version of the turbo bar, I used a torsion release wichard on 1/4 Amsteel. That goes through the bar
and to the power lines pulley. After I built it, I realized that I could have just bought a chicken loop. I might still get one , so I can get my wichard back. I need to get my hot wire rig back together. I don't want to buy another 75-80$ wichard.

Wichard pricing does tend to illicit a love-hate reaction. Nice kit and all that cold shiny steel, but can get spendy and doesn't necessarily promote the rushing out to get backup items.

That and the odd bits tend to take a bit longer to special order that most other products.

Hot-wire rig? Share with the class.... pretty please

ATB,
Sam

no can do, it would be improper for me to tell everyone how to kill themselves. I should not do it , nobody should ..... but ....... Ummm....... nevermind.....
Hey, how bout that nor'easter?

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Originally posted by WELDGOD no can do, it would be improper for me to tell everyone how to kill themselves.

Sure you could. Think of it as a twist on the cliche... "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."

This way, you would just be saving yourself some work.

:wee:

Noreaster?!?!?!? Noooooooooo I have a couple of days off.... I need sunny skies and fair breezes.

ATB,
Sam

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Originally posted by carltb the pic is a flexifoil bar and the strop is the large loop.

Odd, I've never seen a Flexifoil D-loop. Their Extreme Bar (for fixed bridle) comes with a chicken loop, top-hat safety and leash, every bit like a depower bar.

FWIW, Peter Lynn makes a D-Loop as well

The 2004 or 2005 Bullet manuals show a harness strop (D-Loop) for the Control Bar option (thankfully with what looks to be a quick release).

Oddily enough, I was looking through them, while researching something else.... insomnia is just not pretty sometimes

ATB,
Sam